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If she's 100% correct then Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar support civilians being killed:comeon:

Of course she's not correct, and she's insulting our intelligence by putting out such dreck. She's making an idiotic distinction between Israel's "offensive" and "defensive" weaponry and capabilities, as if the impunity they enjoy from the Iron Dome doesn't affect their decision making in being the most belligerent and aggressive actor in the region. And even if we accept her bullshyt line about "we're only giving them defensive weapons!", she's arguing that we should continue giving a state actively committing a genocide defensive support. Insanely stupid stuff.

And all of a sudden Ms. Green New Deal is against performative politics? :comeon:
Go bark up someone else's tree. I'm done wasting energy on people who rely on emotional blackmail and intellectual dishonesty to score fake moral points.
 

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Go bark up someone else's tree. I'm done wasting energy on people who rely on emotional blackmail and intellectual dishonesty to score fake moral points.
What a stupid retort. For some reason I thought you were one of the more intellectual posters in here.
 

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Go bark up someone else's tree. I'm done wasting energy on people who rely on emotional blackmail and intellectual dishonesty to score fake moral points.


You're going back and forth with a proud Trump and Bannon supporter btw


Some of these characters on here want Israel and every Jew wiped off the map so not cutting Iron Dome funding isn't ideologically pure enough for their tastes


the last week they've been yasss queening the fcuk out of Tucker Carlson and MTJ and other white supremacists
 

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Of course she's not correct, and she's insulting our intelligence by putting out such dreck. She's making an idiotic distinction between Israel's "offensive" and "defensive" weaponry and capabilities, as if the impunity they enjoy from the Iron Dome doesn't affect their decision making in being the most belligerent and aggressive actor in the region.

But the dreck is correct. There is a distinction and even in war that distinction has to be made.


Anyway, for those interested in the actual specifics and rationale of why this point AOC (and Liberal/Centrist defenders of the Zionist project) make about the Iron Dome is so wrongheaded:



That's an interesting position. So either put Israel in a Cold War posture or make it so they also have to take on causalities if they attack anyone. Honestly, I'm not sold on that reasoning.


And even if we accept her bullshyt line about "we're only giving them defensive weapons!", she's arguing that we should continue giving a state actively committing a genocide defensive support. Insanely stupid stuff.

This is the only reason I would have voted for the amendment. I just read that more Palestinians are being attacked and killed while trying to get basic aid. There's absolutely no reason or justification that this should be happening. And my vote and subsequent speech in the House would have made that clearl.
 

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But the dreck is correct. There is a distinction and even in war that distinction has to be made.
Saying you're against the Nazi holocaust but you're also in favor of shooting down the Allied warplanes flying over Germany is incoherent. The defensive weapons are what enables the calculus for the offensive actions.

That's an interesting position. So either put Israel in a Cold War posture or make it so they also have to take on causalities if they attack anyone. Honestly, I'm not sold on that reasoning.
I'm not sure what you mean by putting Israel in a Cold War posture, but what's wrong with the reasoning? If a state is committing genocide with impunity, why should that state be immune from the consequences of their actions? If Israel was bearing the full brunt of their actions they would probably be acting with much more comity.

This is the only reason I would have voted for the amendment. I just read that more Palestinians are being attacked and killed while trying to get basic aid. There's absolutely no reason or justification that this should be happening. And my vote and subsequent speech in the House would have made that clearl.
Right. AOC could have easily said "I agree with the content of the amendment, and that the genocidal Israeli government shouldn't be receiving a single dollar or munition in aid, but we should be weary of the amendment author who does not have a long history of taking principled anti-war stances." She could have even voted against the amendment and put out something like this:

 

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What a stupid retort. For some reason I thought you were one of the more intellectual posters in here.
He's generally one of the better posters in here, that was generally a bad post by him( he should be insulted by who liked it). It happens i suppose
 
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