Ali vs Tyson in their prime?

[Erratic415]

If it's Tyson with Gus, then yes Tyson beats Ali. If no Gus Ali works him

Cus died when Tyson was just a young contender with only about a dozen pro fights. He peaked a couple years later.

A better one is prime Tyson vs. prime Joe Frazier....

I think that’s a horrible matchup style-wise for Joe. Frazier was vulnerable in the early going, and somewhat susceptible to uppercuts (like many shorter come-forward fighters). Those are horrible weaknesses to have against a prime Mike Tyson.

Granted, Tyson is not tall and rangy like Foreman was, but I think it’s a similar result.

I don’t favor Tyson over Ali though. I think he gives Ali issues early on but eventually Ali would take over.

 

[Po pimp]

Ali was 10X better than Tillis

 

[Shadow King]

Either a Tyson 3rd round KO or Ali by unanimous decision. No in between

More or less but I also agree with those who say Mike can take 1 of a trilogy.

 

[The God Poster]

Better question is Ali vs Lennox Lewis


Tyson isn't even in this conversation

Wilder vs Tyson

 

[Shadow King]

Ali beat Foreman and Earnie Shavers, I think he could deal with Tyson's power and get the late round win.


younguns think tyson was the first knock out artist in heavyweight division

Ali. Tyson struggled with tall fighters, and Mike has never fought anyone on Ali’s level. On the flip side, Ali has taken punches from hard punchers like Frazier, Foreman and Shavers and never got knocked out.

None of the had Tyson's speed though...

 

[KingJay]

The muffukkin GOAT
A prime Ali is UNBEATABLE
Post-prime Ali still beat Frazier, Foreman, etc.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Man idk even know. It's hard to answer this without some type of bias.

 

[threattonature]

For the longest I was of the mindset that young Tyson would beat Ali. But I've been watching more Ali of late and I just don't think Tyson would've stood a chance. Ali's quick feet, amazing ability to keep distance, great footwork, ring generalship, and just intelligence in the ring would've been too much for Mike. Ali fought Liston with his hands down pretty much the whole fight with Liston's crazy reach. I think Ali would've just fought Tyson at a distance frustrating him and would just keep picking Mike off with jabs and straight rights while dancing away. Mike even at his best struggled most with taller guys who could use their height and a jab while tying him up on the inside. Guys with nowhere near the skill of an Ali.

 

[get these nets]

None of the had Tyson's speed though...

Dokes had handspeed

 

[Mʀ2ᴋDᴇᴇᴢ]

Tyson that nikka to me but Ali would dance all around breh imo.

May get him in the corner a few times with solid hits but that's all I see

 

[Higher Tech]

Ehh...Ali is better but of course styles make fights, who's the closest thing to a prime Mike Tyson Ali fought?

He ain't Liston and he ain't exactly Frazier either, but you have similar height and power, with Mike being faster, better on defense and could rock you with both hands.



In any of these scenarios, Mike is toast unless he drops him by round 3. But considering the type of fighters Ali had trouble with, Mike's style would make it so that he had a good chance to do just that.

Joe Frazier could rock you with either hand. Not as quick as Mike but just as savage, and probably a whole lot tougher.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Ali won't be intimidated or scared of Mike so I def favor him. And he could take a punch like a mufukka.

 

[Greenhornet]

Prime ali's speed and shyt talk would scare mike tyson tbh

Like a Prime Prime Ali ... that nikka would be moonwalking clean across that bytch



Mike would hit him with the lewd eat your children shyt

and Ali would be gliding, calling him a neanderthal

 

[NormanConnors]

Ali was susceptible to the left hook and had major issues with Frazier.

Tyson was a bigger, faster, stronger and more explosive version. Tyson gets Ali out of there by stoppage.

 

[SunZoo]

Joe Frazier

Yep, he ain't got the chin nor the heart like Joe but faster feet, faster hands, better defense, more balanced punching power...similar fighting style that gave Ali problems with better technique..