All this Eminem hate is getting out of hand...

[NvrCMyNut]

People aren’t “hating” on Eminem because he has a huge fan base that buys his albums. People just don’t like the fact that someone who has no discernible accomplishments, outside of sales, is placed amongst, and even above, some of the greatest MC’s of all time. Dude has ZERO universally accepted classic albums, some of the corniest tracks over the past decade and has had one of the biggest fall offs, talent wise, in hip hop history. And Mac Miller, Asher Roth, Action Bronson, etc. don’t sell, or has the appeal to white people like Em, because they are not as talented as Em is (or was) and they don’t have the official black hip hop co-sign like Em (Dr. Dre) and they came after Em.


Also, white boys, like the threadstarter, are perpetuating this falsity that he had some type of huge, game changing impact on hip hop. His impact is that he was white, with skills and had a co-sign by the legendary Dr. Dre. That’s it. Nothing more.

Bottom line, if this dude was black he would be Redman or Canibus. Period. Even Eminem himself has said it on several occasions. Dude has skills but whiteboys, and c00ns, putting him above, or at, the level of cats like Nas, Jay-Z, Scarface, Ghostface, Biggie, Pac, etc. is one of the most disturbing things I’ve witnessed in hip hop history.

Saying the dude who made hit songs like stan, the way i am etc is on the same level as canibus & redman is hate breh nobody objective would say that.

 

[mrken12]

1. This thread has been down already .. in fact I think it was made today.

2. We've been over this; nobody is denying that Eminem was good at one point. But people feel that his material the last 5+ years has been sub-par and if he were black he'd be irrelevant.

3. The reason those guys don't sell is cause they're either average or unknowns who aren't in Em's league.

There's white people who only listen to Eminem and have only listened to him and declare him GOAT. That shyt is disgusting to hear.

Or ''i dont want to hear about bytches or hoes or the n word'' little do they know Eminem rapped about worst shyt than that..

I hate those people. Those white people who say that they hate rap but love Eminem. Or the white people who claim that Eminem talks about "real" things. Yeah the guy who talks about killing his wife, taking drugs, making farting noises, and throwing lesbians in cement is someone that I can relate to.

 

[Billy Ocean]

Saying the dude who made hit songs like stan, the way i am etc is on the same level as canibus & redman is hate breh nobody objective would say that.

Him making those tracks makes him an all time greater MC than Pac, Nas or Big? I can name D-List MC's who made incredible tracks but you, or any other cac or c00n, would never place them in the league of the greats. Immortal technique made easily one of the greatest storytelling tracks of all time, but no one in their right mind would ever place him in the Top 5 ever. Also, i can count on several fingers the downright corny/wack tracks Redman has made. Eminem has made COUNTLESS wack ass, corny tracks. Stop it and get that shyt all the way the fukk outta here.

 

[Ziggiy]

Cacinem is severely overrated and has a laughably mediocre discography

 

[Billy Ocean]

Cacinem is severely overrated and has a laughably mediocre discography

Absolute truth. The God Zig ain't never lied.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Him making those tracks makes him an all time greater MC than Pac, Nas or Big? I can name D-List MC's who made incredible tracks but you, or any other cac or c00n, would never place them in the league of the greats. Immortal technique made easily one of the greatest storytelling tracks of all time, but no one in their right mind would ever place him in the Top 5 ever. Also, i can count on several fingers the downright corny/wack tracks Redman has made. Eminem has made COUNTLESS wack ass, corny tracks. Stop it and get that shyt all the way the fukk outta here.

No. Did i claim it did?

I'm not about to write up why eminem is vastly superior to redman and canibus, he just is.

 

[Billy Ocean]

No. Did i claim it did?

I'm not about to write up why eminem is vastly superior to redman and canibus, he just is.

No, he is not. Redman has several albums better than anything Eminem ever put out. And Prime Eminem woulda got torched by the same nikka that torched the GOAT Nas on Desperadoes and did this @ 3 minutes in:

 

[blackslash]

People aren’t “hating” on Eminem because he has a huge fan base that buys his albums. People just don’t like the fact that someone who has no discernible accomplishments, outside of sales, is placed amongst, and even above, some of the greatest MC’s of all time. Dude has ZERO universally accepted classic albums, some of the corniest tracks over the past decade and has had one of the biggest fall offs, talent wise, in hip hop history. And Mac Miller, Asher Roth, Action Bronson, etc. don’t sell, or has the appeal to white people like Em, because they are not as talented as Em is (or was) and they don’t have the official black hip hop co-sign like Em (Dr. Dre) and they came after Em.


Also, white boys, like the threadstarter, are perpetuating this falsity that he had some type of huge, game changing impact on hip hop. His impact is that he was white, with skills and had a co-sign by the legendary Dr. Dre. That’s it. Nothing more.

Bottom line, if this dude was black he would be Redman or Canibus. Period. Even Eminem himself has said it on several occasions. Dude has skills but whiteboys, and c00ns, putting him above, or at, the level of cats like Nas, Jay-Z, Scarface, Ghostface, Biggie, Pac, etc. is one of the most disturbing things I’ve witnessed in hip hop history.

Nah u kinda whylin breh

U actin as if Em dont know how to form listenable and great songs

Are we forgetting songs like Stan, When Im gone, White America, Toy Soldiers, etc.

Em has made some really really great songs....ya ppl overrate him..but ur unfairly and greatly underrating him due to him being white

So ur discrediting his talent and laying all the blame of his success for his color

Granted it plays a significant part in it
But his talent in MCing also accounts for it also

Stop hating breh

 

[Billy Ocean]

Nah u kinda whylin breh

U actin as if Em dont know how to form listenable and great songs

Are we forgetting songs like Stan, When Im gone, White America, Toy Soldiers, etc.

Em has made some really really great songs....ya ppl overrate him..but ur unfairly and greatly underrating him due to him being white

So ur discrediting his talent and laying all the blame of his success for his color

Granted it plays a significant part in it
But his talent in MCing also accounts for it also

Stop hating breh

I already addressed this, slash. READ. After all...it is fundamental.

I NEVER claimed Eminem wasn't talented. NEVER, EVER. He is very talented. Great wordplay and he has shown he HAD the ability to make quality songs. But...A WHOLE BUNCH OF MC's have lyrical prowess and have made great songs. Hardly any of them are placed in Top 5 or named GOAT, by cacs and c00ns like Eminem is.

Also, Eminem has NO classics. I literally laugh or smh anytime some clown wants to place MMLP or SSLP with the likes of Cuban Linx, Chronic, Ready to Die, etc. Dudes like Common, for instance, is just as good an MC, and has several albums that trump anything Marshall has put out.

Eminem is the most overrated rapper ever. And yes, it is because he is a whiteboy.

 

[blackslash]

I already addressed this, slash. READ. After all...it is fundamental.

I NEVER claimed Eminem wasn't talented. NEVER, EVER. He is very talented. Great wordplay and he has shown he HAD the ability to make quality songs. But...A WHOLE BUNCH OF MC's have lyrical prowess and have made great songs. Hardly any of them are placed in Top 5 or named GOAT, by cacs and c00ns like Eminem is.

Also, Eminem has NO classics. I literally laugh or smh everytime some clown wants to place MMLP or SSLP with the likes of Cuban Linx, Chronic, Ready to Die, etc. Dudes like Common, for instance, is just as good an MC, and has several albums that trump anything Marshall has put out.

Duuude ur wh0le rhetoric can be used against black rappers also

There are many mufckaz that make great music that dont get top 5 recognition

Some mufckaz just dont make it in success in the industry and attaining mass appeal like 2pac, or big, or Jay or Nas

So should i discredit them also??

Ur whole rhetoric aint making sense and how it connects with En's color

 

[MoneyBags]

just cause you don't like something doesn't mean you're hating. That's like calling a straight man a hater for not liking a gay man.

and c/s, MMLP isn't and never will be a classic. I wouldn't be caught dead bumping that shyt in my car in DC.

Hell, what beats on his album are even classic?

 

[Billy Ocean]

Duuude ur whole rhetoric can be used against black rappers also

There are many mufckaz that make great music that dont get top 5 recognition

Some mufckaz just dont make it in success in the industry and attaining mass appeal like 2pac, or big, or Jay or Nas

So should i discredit them also??

Ur while rhetoric aint making sense and how it connects with En's color

Not rhetoric. Just truth.

The gist is: THERE IS A TON OF TALENTED MC's...NONE GET THE ACCLAIM BY WHITEBOYS AND c00nS LIKE EMINEM BECAUSE HE IS WHITE.

And the reason there's black MC's that don't reach the holy grail like Pac, Nas, Jay, etc...is because they never did what those MC's did. Name the Mc's that made classics that aren't named consistently in Top 10 lists.

Again, this shouldn't even be debatable, Eminem is the most overrated MC ever. Not even close.

 

[Billy Ocean]

just cause you don't like something doesn't mean you're hating. That's like calling a straight man a hater for not liking a gay man.

and c/s, MMLP isn't and never will be a classic. I wouldn't be caught dead bumping that shyt in my car in DC.

Hell, what beats on his album are even classic?

That's another thing. I never heard anybody bumping this nikka shyt. NEVER. And I'm all of the place.

 

[MostReal]

this is how I feel about Em

 

[desp]

How could one of the "greatest MCs of all time" drop songs like these?