All this shyt I've been hearing about "electability"

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RCP averages:

Biden 48% Trump 45%
Sanders 48% Trump 44%


Been saying this, the electability argument for Biden is a moot point given the fact that Sanders is also shown to beat Trump. The question comes down to which policies do you prefer, the moderate status quo or progressive policies that will benefit the poor and middle class American?
 

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I'd prefer Bernie over Biden, but I'm not particularly confident either can beat Trump. :patrice:
i cant lie, i wish biden was 10 years younger :yeshrug: 08-12 biden who destroyed paul ryan in the VP debate would annihilate trump

i still think hes the best shot, because i know exactly how the debates are gonna go. trump is gonna say "im a businessman and we have the lowest unemployment in 50 years and a record high stock market, how is your socialism gonna improve on that? raising taxes after i cut them? :childplease:"

and deep down, the voters in the swing states are gonna say yeah hes right :dead:
 

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The only Dem to win the presidency since Clinton was the one who ran as progressive.

Gore lost

Kerry lost

Hillary lost

Dem leadership still hasn’t figured out the way to win is to excite your base and get voter turnout from non traditional voters.

You don’t win by being Republican lite.
 

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i cant lie, i wish biden was 10 years younger :yeshrug: 08-12 biden who destroyed paul ryan in the VP debate would annihilate trump

i still think hes the best shot, because i know exactly how the debates are gonna go. trump is gonna say "im a businessman and we have the lowest unemployment in 50 years and a record high stock market, how is your socialism gonna improve on that? raising taxes after i cut them? :childplease:"

and deep down, the voters in the swing states are gonna say yeah hes right :dead:

Moderate candidates are 0-3 since Clinton’s presidency. Y’all are three time losers. Moderates are in no position to be offering advise.

shyt, Obama had to pretend to be a progressive hope and change candidate to win. :heh:

Im calling it now, Biden will make it 0-4. Ole Buffalo Bills face ass
 

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If not them then who?

:yeshrug:

RCP averages:

Biden 48% Trump 45%
Sanders 48% Trump 44%

And that should be the high-water mark for Trump. What could he possibly say to get more voters on his side? He's been in our faces for five years, he's campaigning constantly, he's already shot his load.

Biden similarly is pretty much a known factor. The only fear with him is that he'll gaffe his way through the campaign, so his number legitimately could drop.

Any Dem will win the popular vote, but I could see Trump dog whistling his way to another close win in the swing states.

A race to Trump is a race to the bottom. He can't get more voters on his side, but he can turn more voters against his opponent and convince them to stay home or vote 3rd party.

i cant lie, i wish biden was 10 years younger :yeshrug: 08-12 biden who destroyed paul ryan in the VP debate would annihilate trump

i still think hes the best shot, because i know exactly how the debates are gonna go. trump is gonna say "im a businessman and we have the lowest unemployment in 50 years and a record high stock market, how is your socialism gonna improve on that? raising taxes after i cut them? :childplease:"

and deep down, the voters in the swing states are gonna say yeah hes right :dead:

Trump will call Biden a socialist too (just like he did Obama), let's not act like any Dem won't be called that.

If it's Biden, Trump is just going to bring up Obama x1000 times and how supposedly terrible he was and how Biden supported him. Trump basically won the presidency by bashing Obama, so he's certainly going to try to the same running against Obama's VP.
 

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Any Dem will win the popular vote, but I could see Trump dog whistling his way to another close win in the swing states.

A race to Trump is a race to the bottom. He can't get more voters on his side, but he can turn more voters against his opponent and convince them to stay home or vote 3rd party.
Clinton lost because her advantage didn't translate to the rust belt. They didn't see her offering them anything. The rust belt, working class white voters, that's one of Sanders biggest advantages over Clinton. No way he loses Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
 

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Moderate candidates are 0-3 since Clinton’s presidency. Y’all are three time losers. Moderates are in no position to be offering advise.
and bernie couldnt even beat hillary in a primary full of only democrat voters :dahell:

what the fukk is progressives' record? AOC getting elected? :mjlol:
 

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Trump will call Biden a socialist too (just like he did Obama), let's not act like any Dem won't be called that.

If it's Biden, Trump is just going to bring up Obama x1000 times and how supposedly terrible he was and how Biden supported him. Trump basically won the presidency by bashing Obama, so he's certainly going to try to the same running against Obama's VP.
no, that's bullshyt. he won by making hillary into a boogieman, using fox news and her own personal history

biden would have beat trump in 2016 :yeshrug:the republicans ENTIRE playbook was "oh, well i know trump is awful but anything except a clinton presidency". that wouldnt have worked on biden
 

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South Carolina, a state that voted for Trump...a state that put Lindsay Graham in office...is about to go and vote for Biden. :francis:

These the same people who overwhelmingly voted for Hillary only to again, let her lose to Trump.

:why:

These are the southern states dudes are in here praising. “Oh boy I can’t wait until the south comes through and crushes progressives!”
:camby:
 

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and bernie couldnt even beat hillary in a primary full of only democrat voters :dahell:

what the fukk is progressives' record? AOC getting elected? :mjlol:

Bernie lost to Hillary due to a combo of lack of name recognition and the Democratic establishment solidly backing Hillary. People know him this time around which is why he's doing so much better.
 

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South Carolina, a state that voted for Trump...a state that put Lindsay Graham in office...is about to go and vote for Biden. :francis:

These the same people who overwhelmingly voted for Hillary only to again, let her lose to Trump.

:why:

These are the southern states dudes are in here praising. “Oh boy I can’t wait until the south comes through and crushes progressives!”
:camby:
so maybe the democrats should get rid of this bullshyt, and just decide their candidate with a popular vote of registered democrats :ohhh: kinda like how they want to get rid of the electoral college

oh wait, they'll never do that because they're full of shyt :mjlol:
 

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Bernie lost to Hillary due to a combo of lack of name recognition and the Democratic establishment solidly backing Hillary. People know him this time around which is why he's doing so much better.
if these clown ass warren supporters had any integrity, they would tell her to drop out and make 2020 a referendum on bernie or biden

meanwhile, i'm happy to watch their 60% be split up so it loses to biden's 40% :heh:
 
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