Alright so lets say Kakarot NEVER existed

[Cᵣₐₛₕ&ₜₕₑCₒᵤₚ]

Tien was the strongest human z-fighter then Krillin.

Tien use to be trill as fukk remember all the sh*t he use to talk to Goku and Roshi's pupils.

I remember when he gave Yamcha no mercy and broke his leg

 

[Jplaya2023]

Piccolo would be weak...no training with King Kai and no trip to Namek and fusing with Nail and the multiple battles alongside Goku. Garlic Jr. would have had control of earth.

Piccon?
Broly?
Babidi?

elder namek stated thati f piccolo would've fused with kami he would've been able to defeat frieza on namek.

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

Tien was the strongest human z-fighter then Krillin.

Tien use to be trill as fukk remember all the sh*t he use to talk to Goku and Roshi's pupils.

I remember when he gave Yamcha no mercy and broke his leg

and yet raditz pushed the z fighters wig back until piccolo and goku stepped in...and nappa DESTROYED them

 

[Jplaya2023]

Babidi would travel across space w/ Dabura and eventually cross paths w/ Freiza, Vegeta, Cooler etc. Dabura gives them that work and in the process gathering energy for Buu then Babidi unleashes him.

none of those chars would begin to have the energy to fill buu's tank.

It took goku and vegeta fighting at ssj2's in a fight to the death to fill buu's tank while the energy stolen from ssj2 gohan filled it up 45%

 

[Jplaya2023]

what makes you think Dabura beats all these people?
he might be able during these fights to drain enough of the energy to get buu made

but with no Martial Arts Tourney, Babidi makes no appearance

are you smoking blo?

Dabura is 1000s times stronger than those people and it's not even close.

DBZ progessive in an upward scale, the deeper in the manga the stronger the villians become. Dabura is around initial perfect cell power, which can beat all those guy with a single punch

 

[Jplaya2023]

this isn't true...broly was ss2 level and only getting stronger when goku punched him...he had unlimited power potential cause of his rage and insanity...he would've mopped the floor with frieza, king cold, cooler, and all the gynu(sp) force at the same time cause of his power level, which is all that mattered in db universe

for the record, brolly is a ssj1, a LSSJ1 but ssj1 none the less. Think of him as the evil version of USSJ2 Trunks.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Was Dabura weaker than Cell? Anyway if Dabura spit on you, you get turned to stone.

Yes, Dabura is roughly around initial perfect cell who damn near killed vegeta and forced trunks to back down.

Initial Perfect Cell >>> Dabura = SSJ Teen Gohan(buu saga)

 

[mozichrome]

are you smoking blo?

Dabura is 1000s times stronger than those people and it's not even close.

DBZ progessive in an upward scale, the deeper in the manga the stronger the villians become. Dabura is around initial perfect cell power, which can beat all those guy with a single punch

then what keeps Babidi from killing dabura if he senses any type of danger from dabura

 

[Jplaya2023]

then what keeps Babidi from killing dabura if he senses any type of danger from dabura

Babidi controls dabura hence the M on his forehead. Before he went under his spell he was king of the demon realm. He wouldn't kill babidi anyway because he's under his power.

 

[acri1]

and yet raditz pushed the z fighters wig back until piccolo and goku stepped in...and nappa DESTROYED them

When did somebody else besides Goku and Piccolo even fight Raditz?

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

When did somebody else besides Goku and Piccolo even fight Raditz?

well nappa did

 

[He Who Posts Well]

Maybe Brolly would have grown into a good guy since he didnt have to hear Goku crying.

 

[cfountain]

a brother loves DBZ threads

 

[lutha]

Dabura was powerful as fukk are you serious? Dude sonned the shyt out of gohan and was nearly fukking with SSJ2 VEGETA...WHO THEN would beat goku in a fight.

not true...dabura was strong, but not that strong...it was his spit and the majin power that made him seem more powerful, but even then he wasn't fukking with the saiyans....the gohan he beat was the weakest of the series (not including him being a lil kid before the cell saga)...he hadn't trained in years, that's why dabura won....but when they first met, dabura wasn't seeing vegeta, which means he def wasn't seeing goku...cause even majin vegeta wasn't seeing goku..that point was proven when goku whopped his ass after he let vegeta get his rocks off thinking he was running shyt...just look at that fight again...vegeta swore he was running shyt, especially when he handcuffed goku to the mountain...but look at the reaction and ass whopping he received after goku smiled at him and stopped playing around...

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

not true...dabura was strong, but not that strong...it was his spit and the majin power that made him seem more powerful, but even then he wasn't fukking with the saiyans....the gohan he beat was the weakest of the series (not including him being a lil kid before the cell saga)...he hadn't trained in years, that's why dabura won....but when they first met, dabura wasn't seeing vegeta, which means he def wasn't seeing goku...cause even majin vegeta wasn't seeing goku..that point was proven when goku whopped his ass after he let vegeta get his rocks off thinking he was running shyt...just look at that fight again...vegeta swore he was running shyt, especially when he handcuffed goku to the mountain...but look at the reaction and ass whopping he received after goku smiled at him and stopped playing around...

Who ended up face down half dead at the end of the fight?