Alright so lets say Kakarot NEVER existed

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Let's update this question based on DB super

 

[O.Red]

the oxygen thing is such a giant plothole in DBZ too

one scene vegeta and nappa are floating out in space blowing up planets with a single blast
another scene goku can't breathe in space
another scene bardock is flying out into space to take on frieza and freiza and his elite are chilling out in open space like its nothin

That's a manga/anime consistency issue

The nappa/vegeta floating in space and the bardock shyt never existed in the manga so I imagine somewhere along the line somebody didn't even think about t

 

[O.Red]

I'm seeing Cell name pop up in this thread, but if Goku never existed, would Dr. Gero have even created Cell, seeing as he used Goku's genes?
Shiiiiiit, if Raditz, Nappa, and Vegeta conquered Earth during their first visit, they would've probably crossed paths with Gero anyway and dead him loooooong before he even begins work on the Androids.

I think the only logic answers are Broly or the Supreme Kai.

The whole reason Cell and 16-20 were created was because of Goku

Red Ribbon without Goku would've been like a military grade Microsoft or someshyt

But Piccolo prob would've killed everybody before that happened so

EDIT:

From here Piccolo ends up ruling earth, but won't be powerful enough on be on anyone's radar, especially Bills. King Piccolo power level was like 300 or someshyt

 

[acri1]

Let's update this question based on DB super

Beerus would probably end up killing Frieza sooner or later. He'd mentioned at one point that he was thinking about killing Frieza before he found out Goku had beaten him.

Vegeta would be irrelevant and would probably just be one of Frieza's goons. Without Goku I doubt the Saiyans/Frieza would even bother taking over Earth since it's considered an unimportant planet.

Cell/Androids would never happen since the only reason Gero made them was to kill Goku. Buu probably wouldn't have been revived without all these super powerful people on Earth to steal energy from. King Piccolo might still be running shyt on Earth unless Roshi manages to seal him again.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

I have no idea who the mods are for either film room or arcadium but can we move this?

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Beerus would probably end up killing Frieza sooner or later. He'd mentioned at one point that he was thinking about killing Frieza before he found out Goku had beaten him.

Vegeta would be irrelevant and would probably just be one of Frieza's goons. Without Goku I doubt the Saiyans/Frieza would even bother taking over Earth since it's considered an unimportant planet.

Cell/Androids would never happen since the only reason Gero made them was to kill Goku. Buu probably wouldn't have been revived without all these super powerful people on Earth to steal energy from. King Piccolo might still be running shyt on Earth unless Roshi manages to seal him again.

Its proven though that the saiyans are significantly more powerful than any race they have encountered which is why freeza wanted to exterminate them....their threat was real

 

[Master Teacher]

there' a manga where vegeta was sent to Earth instead of Goku, they basically switch roles

 

[acri1]

Its proven though that the saiyans are significantly more powerful than any race they have encountered which is why freeza wanted to exterminate them....their threat was real

I agree. Frieza still blows up Planet Vegeta regardless of Goku.

But without him around, Vegeta never finds out about it and likely never gets powerful enough to do anything about it anyway, so him and Raditz/Nappa would probably just continue to be Frieza's goons indefinitely. If Vegeta is still around whenever Beerus kills Frieza he might try to take over his empire tho.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

I agree. Frieza still blows up Planet Vegeta regardless of Goku.

But without him around, Vegeta never finds out about it and likely never gets powerful enough to do anything about it anyway, so him and Raditz/Nappa would probably just continue to be Frieza's goons indefinitely. If Vegeta is still around whenever Beerus kills Frieza he might try to take over his empire tho.

In the same breath, the Ginyu force was on some shyt when it comes to vegeta until he got them powerups...in terms of power/influence in the planet trade organization it would be

• King Cold
  • Cooler
  • Frieza
    • Zarbon
    • Didoria
      • Captain ginyu
        • The ginyu force
      • Cui
      • Apool
      • Vegeta
        • Raditz
        • Nappa
        • Turles*
        • Paragus*
        • Broly*

Everything we know about vegeta...pride wouldve gotten the best of him and his people and they probably would've bossed up

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

SMH Broly isn't as strong as you guys think he is. Frieza was more than capable of beating Goku, he just wasnt as good of a fighter. Frieza was lazy and spoiled but not weak at all. SMH at people saying, "Oh Frieza tried to cut off Goku's oxygen." Mother fukkers. If we get into a fight and I choke you out and walk away does that not mean I won? Broly was strong, yah, that's given, In the end he still lost in the end he wasnt shyt for a fighter and in the very very very end he was just a huge cry baby. Frieza wouldve blown him to bits.

HE SURVIVED FRIEZA'S PLANET FAPPER 9000 SPIRIT BOMB AS A NEWBORN BABY. I DON'T THINK FRIEZA HAS A CHANCE.

 

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HE SURVIVED FRIEZA'S PLANET FAPPER 9000 SPIRIT BOMB AS A NEWBORN BABY. I DON'T THINK FRIEZA HAS A CHANCE.

Damn you right, he took that like a ryder

 

[ShoryukenHaduken]

unless his father or brother attacks him freiza has no one to stop him.

The kai won't get involved and otherworld fighters can't help it would come down to the 4 sayians left.

Now that I think about it why haven't they wished for the sayian home world back yet u think vegeta would be first in line to wish for it.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

unless his father or brother attacks him freiza has no one to stop him.

The kai won't get involved and otherworld fighters can't help it would come down to the 4 sayians left.

Now that I think about it why haven't they wished for the sayian home world back yet u think vegeta would be first in line to wish for it.

I said that a long time ago lmao. Vegeta could be the king of a whole planet, but he wanted immortality.

 

[ShoryukenHaduken]

I said that a long time ago lmao. Vegeta could be the king of a whole planet, but he wanted immortality.

He speaks of his FAM pride but his fathers lasting legacy is being a footstool for freiza and breeus I would a revived em then revived freiza then they watch me kill it. As for breeus...well the FAM gotta take that loss