Alt-Righters making their case

[DEAD7]

Not sure that is true. A more libertarian system would see the majority of whites refusing to conduct business with blacks, at least openly. Since there would be no federal intercession to enforce a basic equality amongst those conducting business with one another, would be a reset to pre Brown v Education America essentially. I think it's a fallacy to assume that libertarian thought isn't incompatible with white nationalist thought, after all the freedom to do business with whom one pleases, free of coercion, is one of the tenets of libertarianism. Hard to see how that couldn't be stretched into get the fukk out of my store ******. One more thing, isn't a strong state the only thing that has been the protector of black rights in this country? A laissez-faire style of government basically puts us at the mercy of over 50 state governments, further sub divided into tens of thousands of local governments. It would be the post Reconstruction Era all over again. I don't object to your original posting, I actually agree that these ideas must be heard so that we can better counter and destroy them. Shunning shyt that we don't want to hear or find objectionable doesn't make it go away.

The white nationalist rejection of 'freedom of association' alone makes it incompatible.
White nationalist desire a white state forcibly maintained... in your own description of the contrast you point out the issue with this.

 

[DEAD7]

I don't object to your original posting, I actually agree that these ideas must be heard so that we can better counter and destroy them. Shunning shyt that we don't want to hear or find objectionable doesn't make it go away.

Dap + Rep

 

[Pirius Black]

The white nationalist rejection of 'freedom of association' alone makes it incompatible.
White nationalist desire a white state forcibly maintained... in your own description of the contrast you point out the issue with this.

Yea, I thought about that as I was posting. But how many white people would freely associate with Blacks though? I'm a bit cynical that the amount who would freely take our money would outnumber the ones who wouldn't.

 

[southpawstyle]

There's levels to having a platform.

They can say what they want and get their views, but the Coli is not their platform.

Make your videos and yell on a corner, but stay out of academic institutions and government office. Racists dominated those systems and now we generally don't have a problem with other minorities as teachers or legislators.

Saying we need to hear them out is like an anti-vaxxer not concerned with polio because they didn't live at a time when it was at its worst.

 

[DEAD7]

They can say what they want and get their views, but the Coli is not their platform.

In my honest opinion, Higher Learning should be a platform for all ideas that can survive its scrutiny.




... and to be honest im completely floored by the actual anger at seeing the topic(or any topic) brought up or presented for discussion.

 

[Eddy Gordo]

In my honest opinion, Higher Learning should be a platform for all ideas that can survive its scrutiny.




... and to be honest im completely floored by the actual anger at seeing the topic(or any topic) brought up or presented for discussion.

Does this idea survive scrutiny?

 

[DEAD7]

Does this idea survive scrutiny?

Obviously not... nor did i expect it to.

I'm actually pleased with the discussion it created tho

 

[bzb]

In my honest opinion, Higher Learning should be a platform for all ideas that can survive its scrutiny.


... and to be honest im completely floored by the actual anger at seeing the topic(or any topic) brought up or presented for discussion.

you started this thread saying "interesting to hear unabashed white nationalist make their case for an ethno-state". but you were wrong, it's never interesting to hear racists whine and complain about why they feel their racism is justified. they're not saying anything new.

i don't understand how you thought this would be an interesting topic. why are you floored and what did you expect?

 

[DEAD7]

you started this thread saying "interesting to hear unabashed white nationalist make their case for an ethno-state". but you were wrong, it's never interesting to hear racists whine and complain about why they feel their racism is justified. they're not saying anything new.

i don't understand how you thought this would be an interesting topic. why are you floored and what did you expect?

You just projected your interest(or lack thereof) onto me.


@ The arrogance.
#liberalism

 

[Pressure]

Has @DEAD7 explained why it's valuable to entertain white nationalism?

 

[DEAD7]

@Call Me James

In my honest opinion, Higher Learning should be a platform for all ideas that can survive its scrutiny.

You disagree? if so, why?

 

[DEAD7]

Has @DEAD7 explained why it's valuable to entertain white nationalism?

You dapped the post below then ask what value there is

these ideas must be heard so that we can better counter and destroy them. Shunning shyt that we don't want to hear or find objectionable doesn't make it go away.

 

[Pressure]

So simply being willing to listen to positions you disagree with is frowned upon?


#HigherLearning

I've already stated what i got from the video...

Its self-hate to listen to the other sides case? if for nothing else, intellectual rigour should keep you open to hearing opposing positions.
#higherlearning

Yes.
The discussion itself is the goal. I am not attempting to make a point or push any idea/narrative.

You've stayed your goal numerous times, but you have not shown the value of said goal.

I'll wait.

 

[DEAD7]

You've stayed your goal numerous times, but you have not shown the value of said goal.

I'll wait.

Are you asking for the value of the civil discourse i knew it would bring or the value of better understanding the oppositions position?










Either way, im sure you know the answer already

 

[DEAD7]

"There is no knowledge that isnt power" -MK2