LOVE SOSA>>>ANY HARRY FRAUD BEAT EVER.
Am I the only one who thinks Young Chop sucks
- Thread starter BrothaZay
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He was cool at first but I see no development. Alot of bells, alot of bass, his tag playing throughout the beat, nappy ass hi hats
kermit da hustla
Banned
whoever produces that shyt with the "jungle beats, holla at me" drop is better than any other new producer out. that nikka comes with heat. i'm a boss. the shyt he did for jimmy's vampire life 1 and 2.
nineteeneightysix
Banned
are you really comparing young chop to those nikkas?
It's not a who is better than who comparison...
We always talk about the NY Sound and G Funk and etc...How can this be possible if there isnt an element of similarity binding the prominent producers who helped create these various musical atmospheres...?
If Havoc was completely different from RZA and Premo and etc how could that "Grimey New York sound" possibly exist...?
Also, back in those days, beat making equipment was not readily accessible, so those beat makers went a long time without really changing their styles tremendously, and they were able to build legacies based on the fact that you had to be in an exclusive circle or have funds to be able to afford the necessary equipment...
Now that equipment is readily accessible, a lot of the legendary beat makers of the past have been exposed...They are no longer relevant...
In today's environment, it takes a lot more creativity to stay on top, and the sound is changing so fast because of all the various influences from all over the world...
Young Chop may never have the legacy of a RZA simply because, there is a higher and faster turn over rate of who is hot and who isn't in current hip hop...
Look at a guy like Premo, dude been making the same beat for years, and he got away with it, because he had no real competition, more talented people than him just didn't have access to equipment...
Now that we have cheap DAWs, Premo has been exposed...He can't stay relevant with the young bulls...
Basically, a lot of hip hop legendary beat makers are legends because they were born in the right time with the right opportunities...It doesn't mean they are more talented than the young dudes of today...
Think about it this way, a lot of wealthy white families became wealthy because they had the opportunity to capitalize on new discoveries, when the resources to succeed were not readily available to everybody, and today they act like they are somehow better than everybody else because of that, but some of them do not really possess the business acumen that their wealth suggest...
Not all legends deserve to be legends...
nineteeneightysix
Banned
RZA didnt have a tag because that was not part of the style in his time...
Now, if you know a RZA beat, with no tag, as soon as you hear it, then doesn't that mean all RZA beats sound the same...?
If you are okay with recognizing RZA beats as soon as you hear them (because they sound the same) why are you getting on Young Chop for being as generic as the RZA...?
Dudes in here bringing down Premo for Young Chop 
kermit da hustla
Banned
young chop won't have the legacy of rza because he isn't even 1/100 as talented. there's nothing creative about these generic producers of trap music. again, you're attempting to group young chop with legends who have clearly proven why they're held in such high regard. the reasons those legends lasted as long as they did is because they made timeless music that resonates with listeners to this day. i can put on classic rza and primo right this very moment, and i know i'll be head nodding. the same is not true of these dime a dozen producers of trap music.
you claim this isn't a discussion of who's better than whom, but your argument assumes young chop even deserves to be mentioned alongside the likes of primo and rza. the scope of their music couldn't be more different.
Citgo automatically makes Young Choppa top tier 
I don't think he sucks. He's dope for what he does. There might be little to no creativity or innovation in it, but it still dope. That could be said about any producer that does that "trap sound" outside of Toomp, Drumma Boy, Shawty Redd, and maybe Lex Luger who have proven that they could do more.
In the past few years, T-Minus is one of the only producers who has come up in the mainstream with his own sound.
In the past few years, T-Minus is one of the only producers who has come up in the mainstream with his own sound.
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
Love Sosa is one of the illest beats of 2012
Hell.... Those nikkas in GBE can't rap for shyt and he made those nikkaz listenable.
Hate all u want, his shyt is a bit repetitive but it built careers and he's eating "really lol"
Top 5 producer of 2012
Hell.... Those nikkas in GBE can't rap for shyt and he made those nikkaz listenable.
Hate all u want, his shyt is a bit repetitive but it built careers and he's eating "really lol"
Top 5 producer of 2012
DaveyDave
Superstar
RZA didn't use the exact same sounds 80-90% of the time. apparently on Forever, he used the Ddrum drum machine almost exclusively but there's still a variety in the drum sounds because he would still use different compression techniques & layering, etc. the majority of these 808 warriors use the stock standard 808 drum sounds & drown the track in bass.
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
why are we comparing Rza to an 18 year old kid anyway?
DaveyDave
Superstar
besides the fact that RZA made beats like Bring The Pain in 1991 when he was probably a similar age, the argument is about producers from the past having a sound as their signature rather than making generic sounding beats and having a baby say their name to drop so we know who made it. i don't even mind the drops it's just that it's on a fukkin retail album, why do you need to put your drop all over a song on a retail album? mixtape? yeah, beat tapes to send to artists? of course or shyt gets stolen but on a retail album
