Amazon narrows the list of metro areas for its new headquarters to 20

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I just dont see ATL getting it. The major issue will be transportation to and from. Even if they do invest in transportation, which would probably see push back from a bunch of different areas, it would take time for that to happen. The interim would be a traffic/gridlock nightmare


They've been saying that since the Olympics

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This whole process is disgusting, undemocratic and prone to corruption. Really hoping it doesn't come to Chicago. Don't trust Rahm whatsoever on what he proposed. There was just a lawsuit filed to reveal what was promised to Amazon.
 

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I imagine the people saying they don't want Amazon there aren't the people who would get these jobs or work in that industry.

Adding 50k good jobs will benefit most growing cities.
 

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This whole process is disgusting, undemocratic and prone to corruption. Really hoping it doesn't come to Chicago. Don't trust Rahm whatsoever on what he proposed. There was just a lawsuit filed to reveal what was promised to Amazon.

I agree with you a little. Most of these cities want the taxes these workers will be paying out of their paychecks twice a month. Adding 50k at once to a city is unheard.
 

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I imagine the people saying they don't want Amazon there aren't the people who would get these jobs or work in that industry.

Adding 50k good jobs will benefit most growing cities.

Nah. I just don't think that a self-interested multi-billion dollar company with questionable labor practices and monopolistic type goals, combined with the already untrustworthy, corrupt and shady Chicago Democratic machine are a good combination when it comes to something that could change the landscape (in more ways than one) of where I reside.
 

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Nah. I just don't think that a self-interested multi-billion dollar company with questionable labor practices and monopolistic type goals, combined with the already untrustworthy, corrupt and shady Chicago Democratic machine are a good combination when it comes to something that could change the landscape (in more ways than one) of where I reside.
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Do you work in tech?
 

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Are people that work in tech the only people who would be affected by Amazon coming to Chicago?
And back to my initial post.

I imagine the people saying they don't want Amazon there aren't the people who would get these jobs or work in that industry.

Adding 50k good jobs will benefit most growing cities.

But to answra your question 50k good jobs will cause others to benefit from the businesses, students at schools, people looking to switch careers or jobs without uprooting their family to Seattle, auxiliary services, public infrastructure investments, direct investment into the community by Amazon and its employees.


If you hate traffic don't drive or live in a metro area. :yeshrug:
 

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Traffic really isn't the issue here. Chicago traffic is already terrible. The issue here is we don't know the details of the offer that the politicians here have put forward. So one can't just look at Amazon's claim of potential jobs created as the sole measurement of whether this is a good or bad thing. We have to know what's in the offer.
 

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Traffic really isn't the issue here. Chicago traffic is already terrible. The issue here is we don't know the details of the offer that the politicians here have put forward. So one can't just look at Amazon's claim of potential jobs created as the sole measurement of whether this is a good or bad thing. We have to know what's in the offer.
But Amazon isn't being dubious about their intentions.

If you don't trust your local council people then vote them out. Or call them and ask. Or meet them and ask.

But any tax break Chicago or the Illinois offers likely won't make your life worse and certainly isn't worse than the amount gained by the citizens.

The Corp boogeyman argument isntisalways goog.
 

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But Amazon isn't being dubious about their intentions.

If you don't trust your local council people then vote them out. Or call them and ask. Or meet them and ask.

But any tax break Chicago or the Illinois offers likely won't make your life worse and certainly isn't worse than the amount gained by the citizens.

The Corp boogeyman argument isntisalways goog.

Amazon is a business. Their interests are about getting the best possible deal on this HQ2 using the leverage they have, some of which they created and some of which already exists for a company that large. The best possible deal for Amazon as a company does not mean that this deal is all positive or even mostly positive for Chicago. The interests of a single corporation and the interests of a city of millions are not necessarily the same.

If the deal includes massive tax breaks, property given to Amazon at far under market value, neighborhood's evicted and forced out, tax funded construction, etc., it could very well mean that the costs of Amazon coming here could outweigh the gains. In a city and state with financial issues, this is a concern.

If Amazon coming here contributes to or causes financial issues for the city or state, it would affect my life.

The position that the potential jobs created are the sole measurement of whether this is positive or not is simply unsupportable.
 

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I don't get the issue. Y'all don't want people to have an opportunity to go to work? What's the problem?
 
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