Amazon to move it’s second headquarters to Queens.[update 2/14 : Amazon cancels its plans.

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It's not gonna make much of a difference either way in my opinion.

Maybe it will discourage new businesses from coming to NYC, who knows though
i mean, only difference sounds like crowding and more traffic. its not like amazon is competing with businesses on a local level, with all that same day delivery free shipping and shyt :dead: theyre way past that. a walmart would discourage new businesses

Yea him and De Blasio are already on it to fix it.

The Latina congress lady w/e her name is wants them out.
im thinking she jumped the shark on this one :yeshrug:

i respect where shes coming from with her platform, but she has no fukkin idea how the real world works. you cant be on some "im gonna tax the rich to pay for everything" but then turn around and "i dont want this rich company coming here because i feel like were giving them too much of a tax break, but dont worry ill get the money from somewhere else" :dead: she needs to grow the fukk up
 

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i mean, only difference sounds like crowding and more traffic. its not like amazon is competing with businesses on a local level, with all that same day delivery free shipping and shyt :dead: theyre way past that. a walmart would discourage new businesses


im thinking she jumped the shark on this one :yeshrug:

i respect where shes coming from with her platform, but she has no fukkin idea how the real world works. you cant be on some "im gonna tax the rich to pay for everything" but then turn around and "i dont want this rich company coming here because i feel like were giving them too much of a tax break, but dont worry ill get the money from somewhere else" :dead: she needs to grow the fukk up

No, I meant that NYC being hostile to Amazon might discourage businesses coming to NYC.
 

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It's not gonna make much of a difference either way in my opinion.

Maybe it will discourage new businesses from coming to NYC, who knows though

I don't think small and newer business will flinch. Most of the top 10 have offices on both coast. Smaller Busineses, generally startups are the same.

The only thing that those businesses (small) have to worry about the impending bubble burst.
 

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No, I meant that NYC being hostile to Amazon might discourage businesses coming to NYC.

I disagree. The resistance to Amazon has been brought on by Cuomo negotiating and approving it in private with billions of tax dollars attached. Amazon would have come here regardless because of the talent pool. They didn't need public money. How can you say there's no funds for infrastructure and schools then give them what they wanted and more on the hope they'll add 25000 jobs. They aren't required to meet that number. It was a scam the entire time.
 

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Being a lifelong NYC resident and currently living in Queens and being in the tech industry where a move like this would benefit me, im inclined to be on the side of those that are opposed. This won't benefit most people locally, maybe low paying warehouse jobs with a ton of out of state workers. The tax benefits for Amazon also makes no sense when you got nycha residents with no heat, not to mention Amazon doesn't need those breaks. I think it will hurt more people than it helps locally. If they can gaurantee like 10k jobs to local residents and provide a path for career advancement then it's different .
 

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Without fanfare, Northam signs Amazon incentive bill

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Gov. Ralph Northam spoke with Brian Huseman, Amazon’s vice president of public policy, after a November news conference in Crystal City at which the tech giant announced that it will split its second headquarters between Northern Virginia and New York.


Without public ceremony, Gov. Ralph Northam on Tuesday signed legislation to carry out Virginia’s promises to Amazon for up to $750 million in cash incentives if the company creates 37,850 high-paying jobs at the new headquarters it plans in Arlington County.

Northam, who has had no scheduled public appearances since the Saturday news conference about the scandal engulfing his administration, signed Senate Bill 1255 to establish the “Major Headquarters Workforce Grant Fund” to handle the state incentives.

The bill is sponsored by Sen. Frank Ruff, R-Mecklenburg, chairman of the legislative commission that helped vet the state’s blockbuster economic development deal for Amazon’s $2.5 billion headquarters in the Crystal City area of Arlington.


“Fantastic!” Ruff said Tuesday. “Everybody can move forward to the next step now, which is good.”

An identical incentive bill, proposed by House Appropriations Committee Chairman Chris Jones, R-Suffolk, has passed the House of Delegates and is pending action in the Senate Finance Committee.

Amazon, which already employs 8,500 people across Virginia, praised the state action.

“This is an investment in the growth of Virginia,” spokeswoman Jill Kerr said. “It will help diversify the economy and serve as a catalyst for drawing in other businesses and sought-after jobs.

“We believe the establishment of our headquarters in Virginia and 25,000 new, high-paying jobs, is a benefit to the entire commonwealth, and we are excited for what the future holds,” Kerr said.

The legislation establishes a fund to receive and disburse $550 million in incentives for the creation of 25,000 jobs by Amazon in the first phase of its HQ2 project . The incentives equate to $22,000 per job and would not be paid until four years after the jobs are created and begin to generate additional income tax revenue to pay for them.

A maximum of $200 million would be paid in fiscal year 2024, with additional installment payments each year through 2030, when the cumulative total would reach a maximum of $550 million.

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The agreement that Northam and Amazon announced on Nov. 14 requires that the jobs average $150,000 in annual pay, not including benefits. It also limits the number of jobs tied to federal government contracts to 10 percent of the total, as Virginia officials try to wean Northern Virginia and the state economy off federal spending.

The legislation would provide an additional $200 million if Amazon chooses to build a second phase that would create 12,850 more jobs, at a cost to the state of $15,564.

Amazon is not committed to expanding the project beyond 25,000 jobs, but the memorandum of agreement sets the terms if it does. Those payments would begin in 2031 and continue through 2034, under the legislation.

The budget proposed by the House Appropriations Committee includes $34 million as a first deposit of state money into the fund.

Ruff’s legislation flew through the legislative process, passing by votes of 35-5 in the Senate and 83-16 in the House of Delegates before landing on the governor’s desk last Wednesday, two days before a political storm broke over a racist photograph on Northam’s page of his medical school yearbook in 1984.

Northam signed the measure more than a day before the statutory deadline, which expires at midnight on Wednesday.

The incentive package drew criticism from opponents of public incentives for wealthy corporations, as well as legislators from other parts of Virginia who say their regions had been left out and some Northern Virginia lawmakers concerned about the massive project’s potential effects on housing affordability and traffic congestion.

The agreement includes $195 million for traffic improvements in and around Crystal City. The money would come from funds already designated for use in Northern Virginia to ease traffic congestion there. If Amazon were to build a second phase, the state has committed to an additional $100 million in regional transportation improvements.

Separately, the General Assembly is acting on legislation to create a “tech talent pipeline” that would include up to $800 million in state money over 20 years to provide to colleges and universities for the award of additional undergraduate degrees in computer science and related fields to produce high-skilled workers for Amazon and other technology companies.

Ruff’s version of the bill passed the Senate unanimously on Tuesday. A companion measure proposed by Del. Nick Rush, R-Montgomery, passed the House on Tuesday by a vote of 92-5. Five conservative Republicans, including House Finance Chairman Lee Ware, R-Powhatan, voted no.
 
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