Amazon to stop selling Apple TV & Chromecast for lack of Amazon Video support

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In your opinion. Not relevant to the point and that was plural for a reason.

Forcing people to choose only their products and removing competitors offerings in a service people pay for is bad business move. I had amazon prime before all of the streaming and bullshyt from the free student membership I let roll into a paid membership because of perks involve from buying products on amazon.


No its not... Its great business....why would the biggest online retailer help its competitor corner the entertainment market....

and amazon is not forcing you to do anything.... Those that want an apple tv can buy one from apple, etc.....

This is the next big wave as far as money is concerned..... and the first to get a stranglehold on the market is going to be printing money...... See, yall look at Amazon as only a retailer.... when its much more than that.... when they got in the cloud game and started AWS, they showed they were for real about getting into the tech industry
 

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Amazon doesn't even have a streaming video app for Android last I checked. fukk them. I can't even watch Prime Videos because I have a Chromecast. Couldn't tell you the last time I looked at their Streaming Video because I aint watching that shyt on my laptop. Why the fukk isn't there an official app for Android?

dont have either but a quick Google shows its available or am I missing something?

Amazon.com: Prime Instant Video on Android Phone: Amazon Video

Chromecast Amazon Prime Instant Video from Android - Chromecast Help
 

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Amazon's one of my GAWDs.. but :why: with this bullshyt.

As far as I know they haven't even released an app for droids to use Amazon Instant Video (outside of their own devices).
If I want to watch Suits on my Galaxy Tab I have to

Download the Amazon App Store

Download the Prime Instant Video app from the Amazon App Store

Download the Amazon App from the Amazon App Store

Log into Amazon Prime with the Amazon App

Open the Prime Instant Video App

Go to Amazon.com in Chrome and select a video

Go back to the Prime Instant Video app and open the video

Spend the entire time praying it doesn't crash

I know they want me to buy a Kindle Fire tablet, but :wow:
 

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If I want to watch Suits on my Galaxy Tab I have to

Download the Amazon App Store

Download the Prime Instant Video app from the Amazon App Store

Download the Amazon App from the Amazon App Store

Log into Amazon Prime with the Amazon App

Open the Prime Instant Video App

Go to Amazon.com in Chrome and select a video

Go back to the Prime Instant Video app and open the video

Spend the entire time praying it doesn't crash

I know they want me to buy a Kindle Fire tablet, but :wow:

So it's apart of their android store, makes sense.


I used to fukk with their app store for my tab/phone for the Free App of the Day, but forcing us to keep the app store installed just to use the app was :francis:

Just glad they haven't taken their amazon shopping app that route...yet.
 

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If I want to watch Suits on my Galaxy Tab I have to

Download the Amazon App Store

Download the Prime Instant Video app from the Amazon App Store

Download the Amazon App from the Amazon App Store

Log into Amazon Prime with the Amazon App

Open the Prime Instant Video App

Go to Amazon.com in Chrome and select a video

Go back to the Prime Instant Video app and open the video

Spend the entire time praying it doesn't crash

I know they want me to buy a Kindle Fire tablet, but :wow:
Wow....that's just insane. They just have a straight video app for iPhone and iPad without all that extra shyt
 

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If I want to watch Suits on my Galaxy Tab I have to

Download the Amazon App Store

Download the Prime Instant Video app from the Amazon App Store

Download the Amazon App from the Amazon App Store

Log into Amazon Prime with the Amazon App

Open the Prime Instant Video App

Go to Amazon.com in Chrome and select a video

Go back to the Prime Instant Video app and open the video

Spend the entire time praying it doesn't crash

I know they want me to buy a Kindle Fire tablet, but :wow:
I've honestly never figured out how to use prime video. Theyrr always emailing me and telling me to take advantage of it and shyt. I'm just like....not trying to access 3 apps to watch a video and shyt breh
 
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If I want to watch Suits on my Galaxy Tab I have to

Download the Amazon App Store

Download the Prime Instant Video app from the Amazon App Store

Download the Amazon App from the Amazon App Store

Log into Amazon Prime with the Amazon App

Open the Prime Instant Video App

Go to Amazon.com in Chrome and select a video

Go back to the Prime Instant Video app and open the video

Spend the entire time praying it doesn't crash

I know they want me to buy a Kindle Fire tablet, but :wow:


Sounds like a personal problem
 
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I've honestly never figured out how to use prime video. Theyrr always emailing me and telling me to take advantage of it and shyt. I'm just like....not trying to access 3 apps to watch a video and shyt breh

It doesn't take 3 apps... Yall lil shyteaters just talking out of your ass now..... What multiple apps do you need to stream Amazon prime videos?
 

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So it's apart of their android store, makes sense.


I used to fukk with their app store for my tab/phone for the Free App of the Day, but forcing us to keep the app store installed just to use the app was :francis:

Just glad they haven't taken their amazon shopping app that route...yet.

You do realize the Amazon shopping Android app from Amazon's website is better than the Amazon shopping Android app from the Google Play Store?

Also Amazon doesn't even do the Free App of the Day in the Amazon app store anymore. They have a new program called Amazon Underground:





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Amazon ends “Free App of the Day” promo and introduces Amazon Underground

Posted on August 26, 2015




Amazon has ended their long running “Free App of the Day” promotion which offered a different free paid app every day through their Amazon Appstore for Android. In its place, Amazon has introduced Amazon Underground which claims to offer “over $10,000 in apps, games and in-app items that are actually free.” A new Underground Apps section has been added to the Amazon Appstore which currently includes 471 paid apps which you can get for free. Additinaly, Amazon has rebranded their shopping app in their own appstore into the Amazon Underground App which, according to the updated description, “includes enhanced features that aren’t available on the Amazon Shopping app found on Google Play.”

Unlike the old Free App of the Day promotion, these Amazon Underground free apps are listed separately from their paid counterparts. Searching for apps in the Amazon Appstore will bring up two listings for the same app if the app is offered in the underground section. For example, Castle of Illusion can still be purchased for its regular price of $9.99 even though there is a free version in the underground section. The underground app listings appear to have tighter restrictions on which devices they can be installed on. Castle of Illusion is a Fire TV compatible app, yet the free version cannot be installed on the Fire TV.

Update
More information about Amazon Underground has been revealed. The reason there are separate underground app listings is because Amazon is introducing a new business model with these underground apps. They are free to you forever, but Amazon will be paying developers a certain amount on a per-minute played basis. This means, unlike with the Free App of the Day program, developers will actually be reimbursed by Amazon for including their apps in this program. Additionally, all Amazon Underground apps are completely free with no in-app purchases. Amazon says this is a long-term program, rather than a one-off promotion, which they will continue to introduce more benefits into.

Link: Amazon ends “Free App of the Day” promo and introduces Amazon Underground
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You do realize the Amazon shopping Android app from Amazon's website is better than the Amazon shopping Android app from Google Play Store?

Also Amazon doesn't even do the Free App of the Day in the Amazon app store anymore. They have a new program called Amazon Underground:

Thanks for the info. No I didn't know they stopped Free App of the Day. I stopped fukking with their app store a while back, thought it was pretty pointless to have two app stores, when most shyt was on the Play store. I'll peep the differences with the shopping app though.
 

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Understanding the reasoning behind Amazon’s ban of the Apple TV, Chromecast, and Nexus Player

Posted on October 2, 2015




Amazon’s decision to stop selling streaming devices that don’t support Amazon Prime Video has ruffled quite a few feathers. Many see this decision as a way for Amazon to hurt the sales of competing devices, but there is a lot more to it than that. The real issue, and likely the driving force behind this decision by Amazon, is with in-app purchase restrictions imposed by Apple and Google, as well as the closed nature of the Google Cast protocol.

Amazon has decided to stop selling media streaming devices which do not support Prime Video. They have explicitly named the Apple TV, the Chromecast, and the Nexus Player as the devices being removed from Amazon.com. Roku, Xbox, and PlayStation devices were explicitly listed as being unaffected because they “interact well with Prime Video.”

Many are quick to point out that it’s Amazon themselves who have decided to not bring Prime Video support to the banned devices and that it’s fully in Amazon’s control which devices fall under the ban reasoning. While, on the surface, it’s true that Amazon can technically add Prime Video support to the banned devices at any point, there are actually underlying restrictions put in place by Apple and Google, which prevent a full featured implementation of Amazon Instant Video on the banned devices from being a financially sound option for Amazon.

The issue lies primarily with Apple and Google’s rules for in-app purchases. Both companies require that all digital content purchased within apps in their app stores must use the respective company’s in-app purchase mechanism. This ensures that both Apple and Google receive a 30% cut of all digital content sales within apps in their app stores. An app developer cannot offer an alternate form of payment, be it PayPal or one’s Amazon account, for digital content.

“Apps that link to external mechanisms for purchases or subscriptions to be used in the App, such as a ‘buy’ button that goes to a web site to purchase a digital book, will be rejected” ~Apple App Guidelines


“Developers offering products within another category of app downloaded from Google Play must use Google Play In-app Billing as the method of payment” ~Google App Guidelines

This means that, if Amazon were to release an Amazon Instant Video app for the Apple TV or Nexus Player, they would be forced to forfeit 30% of all movie sales, movie rentals, TV show sales, TV show rentals, and Prime membership sign ups initiated through those apps. We don’t know enough about the specifics of Amazon’s profit margin on digital video sales to know for sure, but it’s probably accurate to assume that losing 30% of all sales would make Amazon Instant Video apps on these devices financially unviable for Amazon.

Roku, Xbox, and Playstation do not impose the same 30% cut and restrictions for digital sales within apps, which is why those devices have Prime Video apps and are excluded from the ban. Remaining is the Chromecast, which actually has additional restrictions around it that makes it a poor choice for Amazon to support.

Amazon Instant Video apps exist for both iOS and Android mobile devices, but each come with their own quirks due to the previously mentioned in-app purchase limitations imposed by Apple and Google. The iOS app can only play Prime video content and content you’ve purchased or rented through Amazon’s website. This way, Amazon never initiates a sale through the iOS app. The Amazon Instant Video app for Android, on the other hand, circumvents Google’s in-app purchase restrictions by only being available through the Amazon Appstore for Android. Only Android apps within the Google Play store are subject to Google’s in-app purchase restrictions on digital content.

So, you may ask, why doesn’t Amazon include Google Cast support for Chromecast in their iOS and Android apps? The reason is likely due to Google Cast restrictions imposed by Google. In order for Google Cast to function on Android, the device must have Google Play Services, which is a proprietary background service and API package. In order for device manufacturers to include Google Play Services, they must license the package from Google, which results in contractual limitations being placed on the device. These licenses are the primary way Google maintains an iron grip on Android, despite it being open source.

The restrictions Google enforces around Google Cast and Google Play Services means Amazon can never make their own Fire Phone, Fire TV, and line of Fire tablets compatible with Google Cast or the Chromecast. Sure, Amazon can technically make their limited iOS and Android apps compatible with the Chromecast, but it would cause confusion and disdain with customers of Amazon’s own hardware devices who will not understand why the feature was omitted from their device. So, instead of supporting Chromecast in a limited fashion, it may be that Amazon has decided to hold off on Google Cast capabilities until they are permitted to implement them across all of their apps and devices.

Regardless of what you think about Amazon’s decision to stop selling Apple and Google streaming devices, it’s obvious there’s more going on than just one company deciding not to sell a competitor’s product. Amazon seems to be protesting the restrictions of Apple and Google’s app terms by leveraging their retail presence and implementing their own restrictions. What’s clear is that, as a result of all the various restrictions in place by Amazon, Apple, and Google, we the consumers come out the biggest losers.

Link: Understanding the reasoning behind Amazon’s ban of the Apple TV, Chromecast, and Nexus Player


For for folks too lazy to read, dude discusses his article at the 8:55 mark:
 
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