America is being taken over by white supremacist Christian Nationalist

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Yeeeeeeeeeea they made the wrong choice but they don’t really count.

This is about crazy anglos vs sane anglos. Sane Anglos are the ones who have to basically fight their brothers and end this shyt.
I mean, they are deciding factors all across the South. I know this ultimately about white people but the coalition that outvoted MAGA in 2016 and 2020 was basically 40 percent of white people and then minorities. You’re not going to get 50 percent of white people voting against this because most of them are naturally Republican and can live with it if their taxes are low and they don’t have to hear about diversity.
 

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This can be traced back to the failure of reconstruction, where the South instead of being razed and having it's power stripped was allowed to bide it's time, rebuild and finally install this Neo Confederate administration. Imagine a country where traitors are allowed to have symbols of their betrayal, and the President openly extolling the bravery of said traitors and their legacy of keeping ancestors of its citizenry in bondage.

Then imagine the madness of members of that citizenry actually SUPPORTING an administration of this sort.
 

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I mean, they are deciding factors all across the South. I know this ultimately about white people but the coalition that outvoted MAGA in 2016 and 2020 was basically 40 percent of white people and then minorities. You’re not going to get 50 percent of white people voting against this because most of them are naturally Republican and can live with it if their taxes are low and they don’t have to hear about diversity.
I guess what I’m saying is, this was always going to happen because America hasn’t truly reconciled with its past.

White ppl have to ultimately decide whether this place is going down in flames (because ppl will fight back when the day comes) or they are going to allow for an even playing field and true equality.
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This can be traced back to the failure of reconstruction, where the South instead of being razed and having it's power stripped was allowed to bide it's time, rebuild and finally install this Neo Confederate administration. Imagine a country where traitors are allowed to have symbols of their betrayal, and the President openly extolling the bravery of said traitors and their legacy of keeping ancestors of its citizenry in bondage.

Then imagine the madness of members of that citizenry actually SUPPORTING an administration of this sort.
Exactly. All this.
 

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I guess what I’m saying is, this was always going to happen because America hasn’t truly reconciled with its past.

White ppl have to ultimately decide whether this place is going down in flames (because ppl will fight back when the day comes) or they are going to allow for an even playing field and true equality.
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Exactly. All this.
That’s all true but that’s a long term project. The first thing you have to do is remove their power and you can’t do that while they’re running government. Like they can’t destroy affirmative action without the courts. They can’t roll back civil rights without the presidency and Congress. The majority of white people haven’t voted against Republicans for decades. You’re basically waiting for millennials to takeover and hope that Gen Z ends its MAGA fetish. There’s no cultural awakening coming for white people over 45 without something catastrophic happening because none of this is hurting them yet. And to the extent that it is, they stupidly blame people of color.
 

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It's all sorcery and mysticism.

The power lies in the spiritual energy of the people. The ones that came before and the ones here now.

My research leads me to believe that Jesus was not an actual person SOHH the "facts" are not the powerful part.
There’s something here.
Expound, if you don’t mind..,
 

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This can be traced back to the failure of reconstruction, where the South instead of being razed and having it's power stripped was allowed to bide it's time, rebuild and finally install this Neo Confederate administration. Imagine a country where traitors are allowed to have symbols of their betrayal, and the President openly extolling the bravery of said traitors and their legacy of keeping ancestors of its citizenry in bondage.

Then imagine the madness of members of that citizenry actually SUPPORTING an administration of this sort.

well said
 

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That’s all true but that’s a long term project. The first thing you have to do is remove their power and you can’t do that while they’re running government. Like they can’t destroy affirmative action without the courts. They can’t roll back civil rights without the presidency and Congress. The majority of white people haven’t voted against Republicans for decades. You’re basically waiting for millennials to takeover and hope that Gen Z ends its MAGA fetish. There’s no cultural awakening coming for white people over 45 without something catastrophic happening because none of this is hurting them yet. And to the extent that it is, they stupidly blame people of color.
Oh no, I completely agree with you.


But the thing is…
Here we are.


They didn’t have this amount of power, but it still got in their hands after all this time.

Why?


Cuz the shyt should’ve been stamped out 150 yrs ago.

White supremacists could convince Latinos, etc to side with them because they still had enough power and enough of a compelling case to convince them.

Why?


Because the cacs who were defeated were allowed to remain and let their beliefs continue to grow every generation.

There’s no cultural awakening coming for whites under 45 either! 🤣 It’s not about waiting for millennials to take over because there are just as many racist white millennials waiting to take their place at the top of the hierarchy.

They lost the war but their ideology remained and festered, so here we are.


That’s why I said what is happening was always going to happen. Especially after having a Black President. That’s all this is. Retaliation because a Black family was in the White House.



Sadly, yea. It was always going to come to this because this nation has not fully reckoned with its history.

I’m not saying we don’t vote, we don’t organize, we don’t fight. I’m just saying that there is a certain element that was never stamped out in this country so this was bound to happen.
 

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Oh no, I completely agree with you.


But the thing is…
Here we are.


They didn’t have this amount of power, but it still got in their hands after all this time.

Why?


Cuz the shyt should’ve been stamped out 150 yrs ago.

White supremacists could convince Latinos, etc to side with them because they still had enough power and enough of a compelling case to convince them.

Why?


Because the cacs who were defeated were allowed to remain and let their beliefs continue to grow every generation.

There’s no cultural awakening coming for whites under 45 either! 🤣 It’s not about waiting for millennials to take over because there are just as many racist white millennials waiting to take their place at the top of the hierarchy.

They lost the war but their ideology remained and festered, so here we are.


That’s why I said what is happening was always going to happen. Especially after having a Black President. That’s all this is. Retaliation because a Black family was in the White House.



Sadly, yea. It was always going to come to this because this nation has not fully reckoned with its history.

I’m not saying we don’t vote, we don’t organize, we don’t fight. I’m just saying that there is a certain element that was never stamped out in this country so this was bound to happen.
What you’re saying is that we didn’t do to confederates what Europe did to Nazis. We’re not in disagreement.
 

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What you’re saying is that we didn’t do to confederates what Europe did to Nazis. We’re not in disagreement.
Yes that is exactly what I’m saying.

America should be as remorseful when the topic of slavery comes up as Germans are when the holocaust comes up. Until that is achieved we will always be stuck here.
 

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I see way too much “Its been here” logic in this fukking thread and its annoying. Folks do not understand or won’t acknowledge escalation.

One moment you can be discriminated against but you still survive. The next you can be hunted. No, not cops shooting you in the street randomly. Not the occasional swooping in to disappear some folks. Wholesale on-sight shyt. Too many folks living in relatively safe places talking all this bullshyt while activity is going up, made worse by the fact that now the justice department is on Hubie time when discrimination happens like :hubie:

It would be nice if mothafukkas would stop popping in on a 100degree day talmbout “ :mjlol: Its been hot.” Just because it was 85 last week.

it's hard at times but I just ignore them. it is the absolute worst and adds nothing to the discussion. it's like some weird combination of cope and deflection.

People need to stop playing dumb. There were norms put in place to stop a lot of what is happening now and we were slowly moving in the other direction. They then went crazy when Obama got elected and it’s been warp speed the other way. I don’t know if you guys think this nonchalant attitude is cool or your coping mechanisms or outright ignorance but nothing is funny about any of this shyt.
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OP didnt word it right, because it makes it seem like they only doing their White Christian bullshyt only now..when they've been full of dog shyt forever.
 
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