America is faded glory right now. All it has is military supremacy...thats not a good thing.

[DEAD7]

Nikkas really want to embolden super villains

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Do you guys remember the

How do you explain America still being the #1 migrant destination? Are they all stupid too?

also

Do you guys remember the Caravan?
The long ass line of people that were coming from down south?

Why? Why were they coming?

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Defending so many countries automatically puts our military cost much higher than other nations who arent... the "more than the next whatever nations combined nonsense needs to
The US is obligated by treaty to defend these 67 countries

It's not defense with that civilian bodycount
it's not defense by overthrowing govts
it's not defense by supplying guns to cartels
it's not defense if you got american troops around oil pipelines
it's not defense with terrorists driving U.S. military humvees
it's not defense when pentagon looses track of hundreds of millions of dollars of weapons to the hands of terrorists
It's not defense when you look at stocks of the military industrial complex
It's not defense if it is perpetual occuptation
It's not defense if you post a link to wearemightly.com as an argument, btw the roman empire called and they want their URL back

In conclusion, follow the money

 

[Shogun]

You know what they do in the south?
When they want to move a large amount of horses they take the helicopter out and fly around them, the horses get scared by the wind and noise so they run away from the helicopter to whereever they are to be moved.

America is bombing and destabalizing many regions, so they are coming here since America isn't bombing itself yet.
This is actually a ridiculous question.

Many of the guns in Juarez are from America, america dumps guns all around mexico and then people flee upwards.

America sold Billions of dollars of arms to the Saudis then they bombed syria, then liberals scream let syrian refugees come here after re-electing the man who sold the weapons.

Repped.

Bomb other countries into rubble and then wonder why their citizens are left with no choice but to seek refuge in the place that bombed their countries in the first place.

So, if im following your horse analogy:
1. You think the majority of American immigrants are refugees.
2. You think refugees and horses have comparable intellects.
3. You think America is bombing places in order to motivate refugees to migrate to America.

So....

1.

More than 1 million immigrants arrive in the U.S. each year. In 2017, the top country of origin for new immigrants coming into the U.S. was India, with 126,000 people, followed by Mexico (124,000), China (121,000) and Cuba (41,000).

By race and ethnicity, more Asian immigrants than Hispanic immigrants have arrived in the U.S. in most years since 2010.

Key findings about U.S. immigrants

2. Disagree...but youre sounding a bit fascist yourself here.

3. If America's goal is to draw in foreign migrants than your "AmErIcA iS fAsCiSt" argument completely falls apart, no?

To be honest, it sounds like you're either trolling, or started paying attention to current events a few months ago.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

So, if im following your horse analogy:
1. You think the majority of American immigrants are refugees.

No

2. You think refugees and horses have comparable intellects.

No

3. You think America is bombing places in order to motivate refugees to migrate to America.

No

I was highlighting the effect of the propellers, horses got scared & ran
in mexico when drug gang crime creates dangerous neighbourhoods people flee, families get scared
that's it, that's as far as the purpose of the analogy went

there was no need for you to pick the points of my analogy with the least relevant context
I mean wtfff LOL

 

[Shogun]

No

No

No

I was highlighting the effect of the propellers, horses got scared & ran
in mexico when drug gang crime creates dangerous neighbourhoods people flee, families get scared
that's it, that's as far as the purpose of the analogy went

there was no need for you to pick the points of my analogy with the least relevant context
I mean wtfff LOL

Fair.
How do you explain the majority of us migrants being from India?

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Fair.
How do you explain the majority of us migrants being from India?

Culture

 

[Shogun]

Culture

So you realize you're arguing directly against the idea that America is fascist?

 

[Mike Nasty]

The weekly "America is going under" jack off thread.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

So you realize you're arguing directly against the idea that America is fascist?

Not american culture LOL,

How would you define american teenagers culturelarly?
how would you define indian & chinese teens culturelarly?

in one of them education and career is a massive part of their culture very early in their age, and I mean that on the daily, their daily life is centered around education.
they are culturelarly successfully encouraged to study math, science, engineering, medicine etcc....
You cannot come close to that mindest in the west
Not only is education a massive part of their life culturelarly but also they are very family oriented, so they will want to make money and send money back home.
Other thing is they both come from overpopulated countries, which means when everyone has education part of their culture in that population density it will mean competition is fierce, so you gotta study and work extra hard.

Companies know they come here with that mindset, so why even bother hiring white people?

Also if you look at many massive IT companies all of the product managers and top people are asians but many born here not there.

Most companies in IT are HQ'ed in the U.S.

 

[Shogun]

Not american culture LOL,

How would you define american teenagers culturelarly?
how would you define indian & chinese teens culturelarly?

in one of them education and career is a massive part of their culture very early in their age, and I mean that on the daily, their daily life is centered around education.
they are culturelarly successfully encouraged to study math, science, engineering, medicine etcc....
You cannot come close to that mindest in the west
Not only is education a massive part of their life culturelarly but also they are very family oriented, so they will want to make money and send money back home.
Other thing is they both come from overpopulated countries, which means when everyone has education part of their culture in that population density it will mean competition is fierce, so you gotta study and work extra hard.

Companies know they come here with that mindset, so why even bother hiring white people?

Also if you look at many massive IT companies all of the product managers and top people are asians but many born here not there.

Most companies in IT are HQ'ed in the U.S.

So they come to America for financial opportunity.
My work is done here

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

So they come to America for financial opportunity.
My work is done here

I don't think it is, what makes you say a fascist country wouldn't reside in a time with immense cash flow?
the roman empire had it, the byzantine empire had it, the byzantine empire even based their cash value on the gold standard.
And if people come from overseas to here for financial opportunity does that somehow erase the mass bloodshed by their military?
None of my comments were about fascism but specifically about the american empire.

 

[Shogun]

I don't think it is, what makes you say a fascist country wouldn't reside in a time with immense cash flow?
the roman empire had it, the byzantine empire had it, the byzantine empire even based their cash value on the gold standard.
And if people come from overseas to here for financial opportunity does that somehow erase the mass bloodshed by their military?
None of my comments were about fascism but specifically about the american empire.

The whole raison d'etre of Fascism is a racially homogenous, self sufficient society. So, the fact that America is the number one destination for foreign migrants says it either isn't fascist, or completely and utterly sucks at fascism.
But, fair, you're not saying America is fascist. We agree there. That must have been the OP (though I'm assuming you and the OP are the same person).
And, I'm also not defending America's aggressive foreign policy, just the thread's argument that America has nothing to show for it. The decision making of the global migrant population suggests otherwise.

 

[RAX 010]

There are "levels" to this "woke" sh1t
--Cold Blooded

Many things are a matter of perspective...before i knew what i know now i would have been the OP screaming and waving my fist about fascism but after actually serving Our Evil Empire in 2 wars...i began to realize some things that we may not want to accept.

Point is our Big Mighty Military is the reason why we are free to do what the fukk we want to do Hate it or Love it...Point Blank Period
Yes you are free to protest and free to show concern but at the end of the day appreciate that you can freely say this and we can have this convo due to our Mighty Military keeping us somewhat protected ....


2 all our service members

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

The whole raison d'etre of Fascism is a racially homogenous, self sufficient society. So, the fact that America is the number one destination for foreign migrants says it either isn't fascist, or completely and utterly sucks at fascism.

I'm not going to comment on the fascism point because we'd have to go over every element of what makes fascism fascism.
I'm not even 100% sure where I would stand on that topic either because fascism can be a spectrum, there are different degrees of fascism.
You may very well be comparing this to extreme versions of fascism.
Just because it isn't an extreme version of fascism doesn't mean we have to ignore that govt. and corporations control mainstream media, that govt bails out the elite but never the people, that Obama went after whistleblowers and Trump is going after journalists and spying on them.
ther's a whole list of things, so maybe it's not a yes or no answer.
Is America a Fascist country, i'm not sure. Is it an Oligarch, of fukk ya LOL

But, fair, you're not saying America is fascist. We agree there. That must have been the OP (though I'm assuming you and the OP are the same person).
And, I'm also not defending America's aggressive foreign policy, just the thread's argument that America has nothing to show for it. The decision making of the global migrant population suggests otherwise.

I don't know why you would assume we are the same people, are there only two people on the coli that want the wars to end?
And if a country is responsible for mass bloodshed then who gives AF what they got to show for it?
You might as well praise Genghis Khan for killing so many people which ended up reducing human carbon footprints.

They should mos def be treated as seperate topics.
And secondly why wouldn't a family stuck in a warzone migrate to a fascist country but without tanks on the streets?
Life ain't so black and white bro

Chomsky says US is world's biggest terrorist