America is Regressing into a Developing Nation for Most People

[chickenteriyaki]

I openly identify as a libertarian communist, it is no secret and I am proud of my politics.

There is no such thing as a 'libertarian communist'. libertarianism goes against all commie beliefs.

Asian countries are all thriving now due to their communist and socialist ideals and I think the only way to 'rebuild' America is to no longer be a capitalist democracy. However, this is impossible due to race like the other poster said... how white people are so petty they vote against their best interest just to undermine black people or anyone they deem less than them.

 

[88m3]

Not at all, that is a common misconception because people do not know the origins of the term "libertarianism."

Anarchist communism - Wikipedia and Libertarian socialism - Wikipedia are decent starting points that go into it a bit

embarrassing

 

[JahFocus CS]

There is no such thing as a 'libertarian communist'. libertarianism goes against all commie beliefs.

Asian countries are all thriving now due to their communist and socialist ideals and I think the only way to 'rebuild' America is to no longer be a capitalist democracy. However, this is impossible due to race like the other poster said... how white people are so petty they vote against their best interest just to undermine black people or anyone they deem less than them.

You making an assertion with no historical understanding or evidence doesn't make it true. You can refer to the links I posted on the last page to begin to gain a rudimentary understanding of the history of an important school of political thought.

embarrassing

I agree, your ignorance is embarrassing.

 

[chickenteriyaki]

You making an assertion with no historical understanding or evidence doesn't make it true. You can refer to the links I posted on the last page to begin to gain a rudimentary understanding of the history of an important school of political thought.

Honey, I was born in the USSR to communist Asian parents who were raised by communists before them, so trust that I have a better and deeper understanding than you. Libertarians want a small govt, in a commie country you cannot even utter words about the govt without you being thrown into jail or killed- where is the basic human rights in that?

 

[JahFocus CS]

Honey, I was born in the USSR to communist Asian parents who were raised by communists before them, so trust that I have a better and deeper understanding than you. Libertarians want a small govt, in a commie country you cannot even utter words about the govt without you being thrown into jail or killed- where is the basic human rights in that?

Clearly you don't have a "better and deeper understanding" than me, given that your position is demonstrably false for anyone who knows anything about political theory.

Furthermore, if you're so familiar with communism and communists, you would know that a sizable contingent of us do not agree whatsoever that the USSR was communist, and you would be intimately familiar with the arguments for why it wasn't.

 

[Red Shield]

I feel like right now isn't even it yet

I feel like these are the times people will look back on and say "Man we could have done a little more for income equality"

People keep looking to some point where they can say "this is clearly IT" when they have been in IT for decades.

By the time you feel it's "right now" it will be so far past too late. I'm talking prom ended weeks ago too late.




And when people look back on this period.. it won't be income equality they talk about.

 

[Red Shield]

America’s underlying racism has a continuing distorting impact. A majority of the low-wage sector is white, with blacks and Latinos making up the other part, but politicians learned to talk as if the low-wage sector is mostly black because it allowed them to appeal to racial prejudice, which is useful in maintaining support for the structure of the dual economy — and hurting everyone in the low-wage sector. Temin notes that “the desire to preserve the inferior status of blacks has motivated policies against all members of the low-wage sector.”

Anti-black resentment is in this countries foundation.

Could had a NHS in the 40s but...
The highway system...
The education system...
etc..etc..

pretty much everything in this damn country. They will always cut off their nose if it means our asses stay at the bottom.

Not like it really matters anymore. They took a shotgun and blew their chests out with it


The very things in this countries foundation that boosted it into THE Empire, are the very things now leading it to it's destruction. There will be no reversing course or saving for the united states.

 

[chickenteriyaki]

Clearly you don't have a "better and deeper understanding" than me, given that your position is demonstrably false for anyone who knows anything about political theory.

Furthermore, if you're so familiar with communism and communists, you would know that a sizable contingent of us do not agree whatsoever that the USSR was communist, and you would be intimately familiar with the arguments for why it wasn't.

Being born as an Asian in the USSR, what country do you think my parents are really from? I didn't live in the Ukraine, was only born there. We all know they are true socialists with communist ideologies but their economic system is socialist. And how is my position false? You're spewing nonsense you only read about. Making up fake political associations to sound cool.

Go experience communism first hand and see if you can spew any libertarian ideas in a communist country.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Being born as an Asian in the USSR, what country do you think my parents are really from? I didn't live in the Ukraine, was only born there. We all know they are true socialists with communist ideologies but their economic system is socialist. And how is my position false? You're spewing nonsense you only read about. Making up fake political associations to sound cool.

Go experience communism first hand and see if you can spew any libertarian ideas in a communist country.

Son, take this shyt to The Official Socialism/Democratic Socialism/Communism/Marxism Thread or Spin: Introduction to Socialism (and read them first before replying, you may learn something) if you want to keep it going with this. I'm not going to keep derailing this thread. You have no clue what you're talking about and multiple people will attest to that.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

what do you mean "is regressing"? When has it not been?

 

[Meta Reign]

The banks had to pay them back.

Do you suggest the government buy your mortgage and then you pay them with interest instead?

It's the Fed, not the TARP

The most important elements of the government intervention on behalf of the financial sector have been Fed actions: low interest rates and Fed asset purchases. “TARP funds were a mere seven percent of total funds disbursed by federal government to aid the financial sector since 2007 … the more we focus on the much-despised TARP, the less we see the invisible hand of the Fed doing the heavy lifting.”

The most important elements of the government intervention on behalf of the financial sector have been Fed actions: low interest rates and Fed asset purchases. Rock-bottom interest rates have allowed banks to borrow money from the Fed at close to no cost and then to lend those funds to the Treasury at a several-percent, zero-risk, profit. (Maybe we should allow unemployed workers to form “banks” like these. It would take a lot of pressure off state unemployment insurance systems.) and then to lend those funds to the Treasury at a several-percent, zero-risk, profit. (Maybe we should allow unemployed workers to form “banks” like these. It would take a lot of pressure off state unemployment insurance systems.)

The answer to your question is, yes. . . But only if we could pay back at near 0% likes the banks pay the Federal Reserve.

 

[Meta Reign]

If you dudes were really concerned with the truth. The Federal Reserve would easily be your "Public" enemy number 1.

 

[Zee Scribe]

what do you mean "is regressing"? When has it not been?

"For most people."

 

[tru_m.a.c]

"For most people."

when has it not been a developing nation "for most people"?

 

[Zee Scribe]

when has it not been a developing nation "for most people"?

From OP:

How did we get this way?
What happened to America’s middle class, which rose triumphantly in the post-World War II years, buoyed by the GI bill, the victories of labor unions, and programs that gave the great mass of workers and their families health and pension benefits that provided security?

The dual economy didn’t happen overnight, says Temin. The story started just a couple of years after the ’67 Summer of Love. Around 1970, the productivity of workers began to get divided from their wages. Corporate attorney and later Supreme Court Justice Lewis Powell galvanized the business community to lobby vigorously for its interests. Johnson’s War on Poverty was replaced by Nixon’s War on Drugs, which sectioned off many members of the low-wage sector, disproportionately black, into prisons. Politicians increasingly influenced by the FTE sector turned from public-spirited universalism to free-market individualism. As money-driven politics accelerated (a phenomenon explained by the Investment Theory of Politics, as Temin explains), leaders of the FTE sector became increasingly emboldened to ignore the needs of members of the low-wage sector, or even to actively work against them.