American Drone Strike Policy Discussion

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man if this came out under Bush's administration yall would be goin all the way the fukk in on this :heh:
 

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Nope....I just sit back and applaud a job well done. fukk'em. fukk their families, fukk their way of life, and fukk anyone who is down with them. So yeah, I'm not crazy I just don't give a fukk about a terrorist getting drone striked. I'm more concerned on what is happening in Chicago and Detroit to give a flying fukk about Obama drone striking some people who want to kill Americans. Or some dumb ass Americans who want to help terrorist. If you care about them so much write the President and ask him to stop.

Edit: And since we are keeping it real...Who gives a fukk who Obama is drone striking anyway!?!? Does anyone here really care? And if so what are you going to do about it?

I'm also more concerned about what's happening in Detroit.

however, even if you don't care about thousands of innocent women and children dieing in the middle east simply, because they aren't American (whatever that term means)... then at least maybe you can care about the trillions of dollars we spend to fight this ideological war that really isn't even threatening to our way of like in 'amerika'.
 

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So, did something stop you from signing up to kill these terrorists? I'm assuming you're a healthy man. You obviously want these people to die, so why did you not sign up?

There are plenty of other people already doing that job. Look man, I get what you are saying but I still don't give a fukk about them or their plight or the fact that they are getting blown sky high for fukking around playing terrorist. If I joined I still wouldn't give a fukk about them. My views on terrorism hasn't changed since 9-11 or that we killed Bin Laden. They are asking to get killed and they are receiving their wish. I don't give a damn about their kids, their wives, or their cause. The minute they decided to be a terrorist their lives were in danger and anyone else around them. So fukk'em. So I'm going to sit back enjoy my time on the coli and read about these fools getting their asses blown up. And then go to sleep without any guilt. fukk'em.
 

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There are plenty of other people already doing that job. Look man, I get what you are saying but I still don't give a fukk about them or their plight or the fact that they are getting blown sky high for fukking around playing terrorist. If I joined I still wouldn't give a fukk about them. My views on terrorism hasn't changed since 9-11 or that we killed Bin Laden. They are asking to get killed and they are receiving their wish. I don't give a damn about their kids, their wives, or their cause. The minute they decided to be a terrorist their lives were in danger and anyone else around them. So fukk'em. So I'm going to sit back enjoy my time on the coli and read about these fools getting their asses blown up. And then go to sleep without any guilt. fukk'em.

I understand friend, and I appreciate your honest and stance, but you keep dodging the question. It's a legitimate question.

Why didn't you join to fight? You obviously feel they are a threat to our country and way of life. You obviously want them to die. So why didn't you take the responsibility of killing them yourself?
 

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Obama is surely not living up to being a Nobel prize winner by carrying out this policy. I totally forgot about the 15 year old he killed with a drone during election maybe because I was too scared of Romney's presidency however he could be easily be tried for war crimes if someone had the power and authority to make that charge against Obama because all around its technically illegal and unconstitutional. I'm glad this info is see the light of day and the public is aware of what's going down.
 

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I understand friend, and I appreciate your honest and stance, but you keep dodging the question. It's a legitimate question.

Why didn't you join to fight? You obviously feel they are a threat to our country and way of life. You obviously want them to die. So why didn't you take the responsibility of killing them yourself?

Real talk..When I could have gone it would have been to Iraq...lol fukk that bullshyt. I was in school and I decide school was the much better option. My cousin is actually a Marine and he is going back and forth all the time, but he likes that type of stuff..(Survived an IED attack a month back) but that still didn't make me want to join the military or an intelligence agency. I still give no fukks about terrorists... And if we really want to get into some deep stuff...we all have a small hand in killing them. Pay taxes and vote. Your money is going somewhere. But the actual business of going over there...haha yeah right. But still fukk'em tho. :ufdup:
 

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I'm also more concerned about what's happening in Detroit.

however, even if you don't care about thousands of innocent women and children dieing in the middle east simply, because they aren't American (whatever that term means)... then at least maybe you can care about the trillions of dollars we spend to fight this ideological war that really isn't even threatening to our way of like in 'amerika'.

Its not in my hemisphere, I don't care. I'm going to be honest. I'm from Michigan and in my hometown young men my age are killed every day by gunfire (Saginaw, MI). And yet people are honestly asking me to give a fukk about what is happening in the middle east. Like I'm supposed to sit up and worry about some people in the Middle East getting blown up? Really? Or be mad at Obama for using a drone strike? Come on, thats like me giving a damn about these politicians actually setting up real gun laws or saying that they will try. I care only and I mean ONLY for what happens to my community and its surroundings. So excuse me for not giving a fukk about what happens over there when several of my close friends were murdered in their own town. We have a gun culture that is out of control and I'm doing my best to keep my loved ones out of it. So, I repeat...I could give a fukk what Obama is doing when it comes to drones or the Middle East.
 

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I understand friend, and I appreciate your honest and stance, but you keep dodging the question. It's a legitimate question.

Why didn't you join to fight? You obviously feel they are a threat to our country and way of life. You obviously want them to die. So why didn't you take the responsibility of killing them yourself?

Let me ask you a question, as a matter of principle do believe that all of aged-men should serve in the military. (sorry my question mark button is broken)

But I will be honest with you here, and I won't lie, everyone I talk to about drone strikes has the "out of sight, out of mind vibe." It's almost like, people are doing so poorly economically that they don't have the time to give a damn about stuff like that. It's just what it seems like to me. It almost reminds of this one theory of an economist and political scientist about the rationality about not paying attention. His theory was people were being rational in not paying attention to politics because the energy they expend paying attention is not worth it in light of their daily conditions and that their circumstances are not likely to change and any benefit that does accrue from the political system, they will receive without have expended anything.

I didn't agree with it, but I can't see the analog here. People would rather just not pay attention. It's not different than how we ignore everything else that is uncomfortable. I just don't think this is a time in our history where Americans really give a fukk about foreign policy.
 

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Its not in my hemisphere, I don't care. I'm going to be honest. I'm from Michigan and in my hometown young men my age are killed every day by gunfire (Saginaw, MI). And yet people are honestly asking me to give a fukk about what is happening in the middle east. Like I'm supposed to sit up and worry about some people in the Middle East getting blown up? Really? Or be mad at Obama for using a drone strike? Come on, thats like me giving a damn about these politicians actually setting up real gun laws or saying that they will try. I care only and I mean ONLY for what happens to my community and its surroundings. So excuse me for not giving a fukk about what happens over there when several of my close friends were murdered in their own town. We have a gun culture that is out of control and I'm doing my best to keep my loved ones out of it. So, I repeat...I could give a fukk what Obama is doing when it comes to drones or the Middle East.

I mean, I feel that. But that mentality of 'not really giving a f' is what we have in MI for MI residents as well, which is y we have a gun culture. I bet most people where I'm from, Detroit, could care less about what's happening in sagnasty. And that's within the same state. We really should care about every innocent person on the same planet. I care a little less if it's some guy that's living the life- military, thug, drug dealer, police officer, etc. Even if it's my friend because people make choices; except someone randomly killed.

We chose to passively support the killing of children overseas. They don't have a clue about our politics, our fake war; they don't know where Nevada is and they don't understand why someone sitting in Nevada would control a plane to kill their non-terrorist family.
 

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Let me ask you a question, as a matter of principle do believe that all of aged-men should serve in the military. (sorry my question mark button is broken)

I believe that all able-bodied men )and women) who believe or advocate for war should fight that war. It's easy to foam at the mouth when they aren't the ones putting the life on the line. That's why I despise these Sean Hannity/dikk Cheney type of motherfukkers who purposely chose not to serve but are eager to send someone else.

But I will be honest with you here, and I won't lie, everyone I talk to about drone strikes has the "out of sight, out of mind vibe." It's almost like, people are doing so poorly economically that they don't have the time to give a damn about stuff like that. It's just what it seems like to me. It almost reminds of this one theory of an economist and political scientist about the rationality about not paying attention. His theory was people were being rational in not paying attention to politics because the energy they expend paying attention is not worth it in light of their daily conditions and that their circumstances are not likely to change and any benefit that does accrue from the political system, they will receive without have expended anything.


I can't say I disagree with this, but it doesn't make it right.

I didn't agree with it, but I can't see the analog here. People would rather just not pay attention. It's not different than how we ignore everything else that is uncomfortable. I just don't think this is a time in our history where Americans really give a fukk about foreign policy.

It isn't foreign policy though. I could give a fukk less about Awlaki as a person. He probably deserved to die, but we need a system that allows citizens to explain their innocence in a court of law and he deserved some form of that. We can't give people blank checks to sign on people's lives without trial, even if it did happen in the past.

Can you imagine someone like Bachman, who advocated McCarthyism in charge of this drone program with the powers that this memo entails?
 

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Real talk..When I could have gone it would have been to Iraq...lol fukk that bullshyt. I was in school and I decide school was the much better option. My cousin is actually a Marine and he is going back and forth all the time, but he likes that type of stuff..(Survived an IED attack a month back) but that still didn't make me want to join the military or an intelligence agency. I still give no fukks about terrorists... And if we really want to get into some deep stuff...we all have a small hand in killing them. Pay taxes and vote. Your money is going somewhere. But the actual business of going over there...haha yeah right. But still fukk'em tho. :ufdup:


I only ask because I get kind of pissed when I hear this rah-rah shyt about killing the enemy from people who decided to stay home for whatever reason. I understand if certain circumstances prevent you from joining, but going to school isn't one of them.

It seems cowardly. No disrespect.
 

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The United States violating civil and human rights , is there something else am missing from the article? Sounds like business as usual to me

It's only business as usual because people accept it as business as usual.

The Constitution, much like a 100 dollar bill, is a worthless piece of paper unless we assign value to it. The government can and will do anything we let them do.
 
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