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Al Sharpton against drone strikes! Just on MSNBC
American Drone Strike Policy Discussion
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Lol how did I know when this was reupped again the post would be about Al Sharpton. Damn beat me to it
And i am still amazed because of how he isn't speaking about it everyday of the week this myth that the "left doesn't talk about the issue" will keep going on even when someone like Rachel Maddow has spoken about her strong disagreement multiple times.
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Lol how did I know when this was reupped again the post would be about Al Sharpton. Damn beat me to it
And i am still amazed because of how he isn't speaking about it everyday of the week this myth that the "left doesn't talk about the issue" will keep going on even when someone like Rachel Maddow has spoken about her strong disagreement multiple times.
To be honest the other black analyst have made this issue worse. They opened up the calls for conservatives to call them hypocrites and the conservatives would be right. But like you have said this is important because it shows some people still have a brain and independence.
My biggest issue is how in every aspect of life people always have to be so overly black and white and dramatic with words like "never" "nothing" "no one in the media" in situations like this.
I mean how many discussions have the "Cycle" on MSNBC had in the past months on drones?
Personally with the rise in technology even more, it seems like we are hearing about it even MORE.....so i still have no idea what planet people are living on with this whole "nobody is talking about it nonsense"
We talk about it way more than we did then trust me.
I think people just want those who are criticizing the drones to use Obama's name 20 times after drones and to get red in their face and raise their voice and then they will be happy.
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I'll let you know when I stop getting letters to impeach obama
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On Job - K. Crady
The most fascinating thing to me about the Book of Job is how blatantly revealing it is. "Satan" [1] gets in line with the other angels, [2] and he and God have a chat.
Paraphrase:
God: So, Satan, what brings you here?
Satan: Nothing much, just been cruising around on the Earth.
God: Yeah? Did you check out my servant Job? He, like, totally obeys me and everything! He even does tricks!
Satan: Meh. He's a mercenary. He only obeys you and praises you all the time 'cause you take such good care of him and put your shield of protection around his house. Why, I bet you 10,000 Quatloons that if you started being a ruthless, cold-hearted, unfair, capricious and just plain sadistic asshat, why, he'd tell you to eat slimy cow-poodoo and die!
God: You're on! Go ahead and cream his family and everything he owns. Just don't kill him though. Dead people can't give me any burnt offerings, and I just love those.
/Paraphrase
Now, the interesting thing about this is that Satan isn't tempting Job--he's tempting God, and God goes for it like a drunken sailor in a whorehouse. What happened to all that stuff about "how righteous are Thy judgements, O Lord"? If God was concerned with justice in the slightest (much less Perfectly Good In All He Does), the outcome would have been entirely different:
Satan: Meh. He's a mercenary. He only obeys you and praises you all the time 'cause you take such good care of him. Why, I bet you 10,000 Quatloons that if you started being a ruthless, cold-hearted, unfair, capricious and just plain sadistic asshat, why, he'd tell you to eat slimy cow-poodoo and die!
God: You're damn right! He serves me well, and I protect and reward him, as I promised in my Word. He praises me because I take such good care of him, and rightly so. For I am a good God, righteous and just, and he has put his trust in me! Far be it from me to betray him just to see if he'll still worship me when I don't deserve it!
If I did as you suggest, he should tell me to eat slimy cow poodoo and die! Get behind me, Satan!
What Satan is baiting God with is the prospect of receiving unearned worship and adulation. You see, if God is good, and people worship him for being good, then his ego-strokes only come because he's living up to his end of the bargain. But Satan tempted God with the chance to receive Job's adulation and praise regardless of his actions. God wanted to be able to throw all morality to the winds and be literally demonic in the cruelty of his deeds, and still be worshiipped as the 'perfect, just God'. He doesn't merely want unearned praise--he wants his worshippers to be so mindless, so utterly servile they will praise him to the skies even as he tortures them. Or, as Job put it, "Though he slay me, yet will I trust him."
The Book of Job makes it plainly, indisputably, blatantly clear that God cannot be trusted as a Protector, and that he has no ethics at all. But wait, maybe God, in his vastly superior Divine Wisdom (tm) knows something we don't and all of this will somehow turn out to be consistent with the idea of a Loving, Perfectly Moral God. Toward the end of the book, Job finally gets to talk to God, and ask, "WTF?!?!?!"
At last, Job falls silent, and we wait for the Almighty to speak. Here is God's chance to astound us all with some nugget of vastly profound insight that will answer the question 'why do good people suffer' in a way that will dazzle us with the greatness and majesty of the Divine! Well, OK, maybe at least we'll get the Stock Answer that always soothes the heart of the believer: "God works in mysterious ways."
Nope. Not even that. Instead, God goes on and on in a hugely bombastic "I am the Mighty Oz!" routine. Justice? Wisdom? Divine knowledge beyond the ken of mere mortal man? Nope. Just plain old brute force.
God: "I can do whatever the hell I want to you, because I'm bigger, stronger, and infinitely meaner than you will EVER be! Now take your PS2 and shut up."
Job: "Right...shutting up! Zzzzzip! Nothing to say here!"
And behold, Job's (2.0) daughters were the most beautiful in all the land! Bet he got alot for 'em on Ebay. Happy endinig? Yeah, right! The poor guy must have spent the rest of his life having nightmares and waiting for the other nuke to drop. Sorta like Isaac after that little hike to the altar with dear ol' dad.
Wow, I'm glad we have God...without him, why, we'd have no morality at all!
NOTES:
1. In Hebrew it's "ha-satan," meaning "the adversary" or "the accuser," a title--not a name--for a prosecuting attorney; Satan is to God as Torquemada is to the Pope.
2. Satan is not a mortal enemy of God here--can you imagine Osama bin Laden joining a tour of the White House and having President Bush pull him aside for a friendly game of Texas Hold-Em?
The most fascinating thing to me about the Book of Job is how blatantly revealing it is. "Satan" [1] gets in line with the other angels, [2] and he and God have a chat.
Paraphrase:
God: So, Satan, what brings you here?
Satan: Nothing much, just been cruising around on the Earth.
God: Yeah? Did you check out my servant Job? He, like, totally obeys me and everything! He even does tricks!
Satan: Meh. He's a mercenary. He only obeys you and praises you all the time 'cause you take such good care of him and put your shield of protection around his house. Why, I bet you 10,000 Quatloons that if you started being a ruthless, cold-hearted, unfair, capricious and just plain sadistic asshat, why, he'd tell you to eat slimy cow-poodoo and die!
God: You're on! Go ahead and cream his family and everything he owns. Just don't kill him though. Dead people can't give me any burnt offerings, and I just love those.
/Paraphrase
Now, the interesting thing about this is that Satan isn't tempting Job--he's tempting God, and God goes for it like a drunken sailor in a whorehouse. What happened to all that stuff about "how righteous are Thy judgements, O Lord"? If God was concerned with justice in the slightest (much less Perfectly Good In All He Does), the outcome would have been entirely different:
Satan: Meh. He's a mercenary. He only obeys you and praises you all the time 'cause you take such good care of him. Why, I bet you 10,000 Quatloons that if you started being a ruthless, cold-hearted, unfair, capricious and just plain sadistic asshat, why, he'd tell you to eat slimy cow-poodoo and die!
God: You're damn right! He serves me well, and I protect and reward him, as I promised in my Word. He praises me because I take such good care of him, and rightly so. For I am a good God, righteous and just, and he has put his trust in me! Far be it from me to betray him just to see if he'll still worship me when I don't deserve it!
If I did as you suggest, he should tell me to eat slimy cow poodoo and die! Get behind me, Satan!
What Satan is baiting God with is the prospect of receiving unearned worship and adulation. You see, if God is good, and people worship him for being good, then his ego-strokes only come because he's living up to his end of the bargain. But Satan tempted God with the chance to receive Job's adulation and praise regardless of his actions. God wanted to be able to throw all morality to the winds and be literally demonic in the cruelty of his deeds, and still be worshiipped as the 'perfect, just God'. He doesn't merely want unearned praise--he wants his worshippers to be so mindless, so utterly servile they will praise him to the skies even as he tortures them. Or, as Job put it, "Though he slay me, yet will I trust him."
The Book of Job makes it plainly, indisputably, blatantly clear that God cannot be trusted as a Protector, and that he has no ethics at all. But wait, maybe God, in his vastly superior Divine Wisdom (tm) knows something we don't and all of this will somehow turn out to be consistent with the idea of a Loving, Perfectly Moral God. Toward the end of the book, Job finally gets to talk to God, and ask, "WTF?!?!?!"
At last, Job falls silent, and we wait for the Almighty to speak. Here is God's chance to astound us all with some nugget of vastly profound insight that will answer the question 'why do good people suffer' in a way that will dazzle us with the greatness and majesty of the Divine! Well, OK, maybe at least we'll get the Stock Answer that always soothes the heart of the believer: "God works in mysterious ways."
Nope. Not even that. Instead, God goes on and on in a hugely bombastic "I am the Mighty Oz!" routine. Justice? Wisdom? Divine knowledge beyond the ken of mere mortal man? Nope. Just plain old brute force.
God: "I can do whatever the hell I want to you, because I'm bigger, stronger, and infinitely meaner than you will EVER be! Now take your PS2 and shut up."
Job: "Right...shutting up! Zzzzzip! Nothing to say here!"
And behold, Job's (2.0) daughters were the most beautiful in all the land! Bet he got alot for 'em on Ebay. Happy endinig? Yeah, right! The poor guy must have spent the rest of his life having nightmares and waiting for the other nuke to drop. Sorta like Isaac after that little hike to the altar with dear ol' dad.
Wow, I'm glad we have God...without him, why, we'd have no morality at all!
NOTES:
1. In Hebrew it's "ha-satan," meaning "the adversary" or "the accuser," a title--not a name--for a prosecuting attorney; Satan is to God as Torquemada is to the Pope.
2. Satan is not a mortal enemy of God here--can you imagine Osama bin Laden joining a tour of the White House and having President Bush pull him aside for a friendly game of Texas Hold-Em?
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SLAIMON KHAN SHAH = SHAOLIN MONK/S OF ISLAAM
WHAT IS THIS TRASH?
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..... the same guy that less than two weeks ago said: "“First of all, if the government were to come to disarm you, you would not be able to use an automatic weapon to defend yourself. Let’s be serious. We’re in a world of drones now so the Second Amendment would not help you in that area. It is absurd to try to cite that.”
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/27/s...-to-unregulated-rights-in-this-country-video/
Twilight Zone....
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Banned
im 28, im a man thats seen a lot and i know better then to trust any government. stop quoting me. youve already told me
1. you want guns banned
2. you want to live under a dictatorship
3. you dont have a problem with the american government assassinating citizens without trial
i dont care to know your opinion on anything else, seriously youre nothing but food. good luck when shyt hits the fan. :dranksup:
That's because he don't think it would affect him since he's white, and never leaves his mother basement.
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I dont live in the states so honestly i dont what that is
Im just saying this classical conditioning shyt they got us under will never get better and will only get worse. The majority of us are smart enough to see right thru yet still lack the means or motivation to stand the fukk up and be men about this shyt. And the defeatist attitude definitely wont help. I guess only God can save us and thats why theyre driving us away from religion all together using science as a substitute when it should go hand in hand
What an incredible post.
Everyone feels good because they can *talk about it* but like you said, no ones going to do anything. But this is the way its supposed to be. When that mark of the beast comes these same people will be like
whats the big deal.Tina Brown: Obama Would "Be Impeached By Now For Drones, If He Was George W. Bush" | RealClearPolitics
Tina Brown: Obama Would "Be Impeached By Now For Drones, If He Was George W. Bush"
On the web-only "Overtime" segment of HBO's "Real Time" with host Bill Maher, guest Tina Brown, editor in chief of Newsweek/Daily Beast, said if President Obama were former President George W. Bush he would have been impeached by now.
BILL MAHER, HOST OF "REAL TIME" ON HBO: The Obama administration has been heavily targeting whistleblowers -- true -- and information activists. What can we do to hold the government accountable for this harsh crackdown?
TINA BROWN, NEWSWEEK: I mean, he'd be impeached by now for drones, if he was George W. Bush.
MAHER: Impeached? No.
BROWN: Yeah, don't you think?
MAHER: Impeached, by who? Who would --
BROWN: I think if this was a Republican president, the outcry about drones would be far greater.
I think it's true, but it doesn't necessarily mean the outcry would be correct.
BROWN: Absolutely. (Real Time, February 8, 2013)
Tina Brown: Obama Would "Be Impeached By Now For Drones, If He Was George W. Bush"
On the web-only "Overtime" segment of HBO's "Real Time" with host Bill Maher, guest Tina Brown, editor in chief of Newsweek/Daily Beast, said if President Obama were former President George W. Bush he would have been impeached by now.
BILL MAHER, HOST OF "REAL TIME" ON HBO: The Obama administration has been heavily targeting whistleblowers -- true -- and information activists. What can we do to hold the government accountable for this harsh crackdown?
TINA BROWN, NEWSWEEK: I mean, he'd be impeached by now for drones, if he was George W. Bush.
MAHER: Impeached? No.
BROWN: Yeah, don't you think?
MAHER: Impeached, by who? Who would --
BROWN: I think if this was a Republican president, the outcry about drones would be far greater.
I think it's true, but it doesn't necessarily mean the outcry would be correct.
BROWN: Absolutely. (Real Time, February 8, 2013)