Amos Wilson in how they destroyed the Black Community.

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At what point do we stop blaming "them" and take responsibility for our own actions in making the present community what it is?
I highly suggest reading Amos’s books. He adresses this directly. And he does so Numerous times in multiple books.

In fact, what primarily set him apart from the hoteps of his era was that he was about actionable items and personal responsibility. He covered the “why” aspect from an educational lens because he was a former behavioral psychology professor, but the bulk of his material is “what” actionable items that we can do now to save ourselves.
 

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At what point do we stop blaming "them" and take responsibility for our own actions in making the present community what it is?

That is a question that will have multiple answers.

The true answer would be how do you tie all the answers together into a cohesive system that communities all around North America can employ themselves.

Because you would have to first define "we" .

Some folks will say there is no Black "community".

Some will ask is by block? Zip Code? How would it be defined? Some folks don't even speak to family members, let alone their neighbors.

Some folks will outright attack you for even asking your question.

Long ass way of saying I agree with your question breh, but it doesn't have a simple answer considering we (African Americans) have been attacked by all sides for centuries.
 

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I highly suggest reading Amos’s books. He adresses this directly. And he does so Numerous times in multiple books.

In fact, what primarily set him apart from the hoteps of his era was that he was about actionable items and personal responsibility. He covered the “why” aspect from an educational lens because he was a former behavioral psychology professor, but the bulk of his material is “what” actionable items that we can do now to save ourselves.

The community in general love talking about the past scholars and all of the reasons why we are oppressed but when it comes time to put in work to make changes folks don't want to do those things. I mean the small things, like making sure our kids can read, how we treat each other on a basic level, any disagreement the first response is violence etc.

It is just frustrating to me. We love rhetoric and not action.
 

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That is a question that will have multiple answers.

The true answer would be how do you tie all the answers together into a cohesive system that communities all around North America can employ themselves.

Because you would have to first define "we" .

Some folks will say there is no Black "community".

Some will ask is by block? Zip Code? How would it be defined? Some folks don't even speak to family members, let alone their neighbors.

Some folks will outright attack you for even asking your question.

Long ass way of saying I agree with your question breh, but it doesn't have a simple answer considering we (African Americans) have been attacked by all sides for centuries.

Right. The least we can do for starters is not attack each other. Have more tolerance for each other.
 
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The community in general love talking about the past scholars and all of the reasons why we are oppressed but when it comes time to put in work to make changes folks don't want to do those things. I mean the small things, like making sure our kids can read, how we treat each other on a basic level, any disagreement the first response is violence etc.

It is just frustrating to me. We love rhetoric and not action.
I am an Amos Wilson and Claud Anderson fan, but I agree with this. It’s like we can’t expect each other to know the difference between right and wrong, and the only way out of poverty is crime. Cutting down on the amount of kids out of wedlock would make a major difference as well. We don’t want to get married, yet we know how difficult it is to maintain households on a single income.
 

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The community in general love talking about the past scholars and all of the reasons why we are oppressed but when it comes time to put in work to make changes folks don't want to do those things. I mean the small things, like making sure our kids can read, how we treat each other on a basic level, any disagreement the first response is violence etc.

It is just frustrating to me. We love rhetoric and not action.
All you can do is be the change you seek. That is what I was taught by my grandmother and did with my life. That is what I taught my daughter and youngest sister, it is also what I continue to teach to my nieces and nephews along with the children I mentor. It is a hope that the seeds planted will grow in time, but it is going up against a lot of negative cultural influences.

Also, the majority of Black people are not resorting to violence in disagreements. The reading scores are atrocious in too many areas of our communities, and that is the responsibility of the parents and the schools to rectify. We do need to work on how we interact with each other even right here on this website too, like disagreeing without immediately resorting to insults and actually arguing in good faith instead of being disingenuous. So yes, we have plenty of work to do, but it always still goes back to being work that each of us must do on a personal level.

The solution starts with a basic love for ourselves and who we are. Since self-hatred leads to hatred of others who look like you. Which can easily be demonstrated when we see those with more consideration, compassion, and patience for other ethnicities than they have for their own.
 

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The community in general love talking about the past scholars and all of the reasons why we are oppressed but when it comes time to put in work to make changes folks don't want to do those things. I mean the small things, like making sure our kids can read, how we treat each other on a basic level, any disagreement the first response is violence etc.

It is just frustrating to me. We love rhetoric and not action.
Yeah, I'm not pro-Black,I just don't like and have a healthy mistrust of non-Blacks

Mf's don't really care and gon do a thing so why should I? Live your life, most of us are fukked :manny:
 

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Yeah, I'm not pro-Black,I just don't like and have a healthy mistrust of non-Blacks

Mf's don't really care and gon do a thing so why should I? Live your life, most of us are fukked :manny:

Which is fine.

I know we have the ability to change what the current community looks like. It will take time and work.
 
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