An Innocent Coli Breh Asks: “Aren’t Puerto Ricans and Dominicans Technically Black?”

[SpikeLee Cumbersmith]

who don't accept us? we rather be left alone instead of having others force us on how we choose to identify.

So why are you in this thread? Explain your original comments.
Europeans won't claim you . I've lived in PR and have seen how the game is played. Just be Hispanic and leave use alone.

 

[drederick tatum]

Puerto Ricans were created by the Spanish raping African slaves. They also have some native in their ancestry, also from raping. That's why them and Mexicans don't like each other, Mexicans look down on them because of the black in their lineage.

 

[Mike809]

So why are you in this thread? Explain your original comments.
Europeans won't claim you . I've lived in PR and have seen how the game is played. Just be Hispanic and leave use alone.

what do you mean why I'm in this thread? have you read the title?

and we don't claim Europeans either , we've have never said that the DR is a white or black country...we've always said we're mixed.

 

[Wildin]

Isn't that the point of FBA/ADOS? to distance itself from other groups?

Y'all should be happy that Dominicans do .

The point is to define who we are and stop letting others control the narrative of who we are and who we aren't, who is involved and who isnt.

Mfs quick to say "we ain't black, we Dominican" "we ain't black we African" then black people get anything and it's "we did it " "thank you God! Justice and liberation for us!!! #metoo"

Imagine a person from China coming to America. 'Chinese Americans can apply for free accelerated degrees!' "Hey, sign me up!" 'Chinese Americans must enlist in the military as a reserve or full time.' " im an immigrant from China, im not American "

Everybody wants to eat off our plate but don't want to put in or clean up afterwards.

Let me guess you don't see anything wrong with $5 Indians either.

 

[horizon]

Some are, some aren’t. This is not rocket science.

 

[Mike809]

The point is to define who we are and stop letting others control the narrative of who we are and who we aren't, who is involved and who isnt.

I don't remember us Dominicans saying anything about ADOS/FBA's narratives , that's between yall and Africans. We've never said things such as
we invented hip-hop ( That's puerto ricans) or anything similar. We honestly be leaving yall to your own devices and stick to our own culture.

Mfs quick to say "we ain't black, we Dominican" "we ain't black we African" then black people get anything and it's "we did it " "thank you God! Justice and liberation for us!!! #metoo"

Like someone else mentioned in this thread , if we said that we are black , yall would call us tethers ...and when we say we ain't black...yall call us c00ns so there's really no winning .

Imagine a person from China coming to America. 'Chinese Americans can apply for free accelerated degrees!' "Hey, sign me up!" 'Chinese Americans must enlist in the military as a reserve or full time.' " im an immigrant from China, im not American "

Everybody wants to eat off our plate but don't want to put in or clean up afterwards.

Let me guess you don't see anything wrong with $5 Indians either.

They should move those plates to the White/Black/Native Americans table only , and not make it accessible for immigrants , but until that happens...you can't really blame people for not taking opportunities given to them.

 

[karim]

"Black" ("racially") is a range of Phenotypes, a Phenotype that originated on the African Continent.

Many Puerto Ricans and Dominicans conform to "Black Phenotypes", as well as have Recent (within the last 400 years), West-Central African Ancestry.

Does that make them Black Americans ("Ados/FBA/Freedmen")? NO.

Would that make them(the ones with Black Phenotypes) "Afro-Latinos" AKA "Black Latinos" YES.

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The "Confusion" comes from people who don't "understand" the different between "Black Racially" and "Black Ethnically/Culturally".

9 times out of 10 when someone is talking about "Black Culture" they are Primarily talking about Black American culture(s).

The roots of black american culture are still african traditions brought to the US by enslaved africans, same as afro-latino and caribbean culture. You motherfukkers need to take a history class instead of trying to invent your own version of ethnonationalism.

 

[Ty Daniels]

The roots of black american culture are still african traditions brought to the US by enslaved africans, same as afro-latino and caribbean culture. You motherfukkers need to take a history class instead of trying to invent your own version of ethnonationalism.

Shut the Fukk up talking to me Stupid. I'm one of the few "Pan African" posters on this site, fukk are you talking about ???

I spent 30 GODDAMN YEARS of my life studying Black/African history,

You will NEVER find a single post from me where I deny African origins for Black Americans, not one you STUPID bytch.

And the post you responded about, wasn't even about Black Americans, but "Afro Latinos" where I stated they had West-Central African ancestry from 400 years ago.

What the fukk about that leads your poor reading comprehension retarded azz to concluded, I'm denying Africa??????

And to your other "Point" , Black Americans DID HAVE AN ETHNOGENESIS ON AMERICAN SOIL, and ONLY a STUPID MUTHAFUKKA WOULD DENY THIS.

"Native Americans" also had an Ethnogenesis on American soil, THEY ORGINALLY CAME FROM SIBERIA.

Their "Ethnicity" was formed and shaped in America, THE SAME AS AFRICAN ORIGINED BLACK AMERICANS, YOU GOOFY BYTCH.

There ain't SHYT YOU CAN TELL ME ABOUT THIS SUBJECT, I'm already 30(Damn near 31) years deep In the subject.

 

[karim]

Shut the Fukk up talking to me Stupid. I'm one of the few "Pan African" posters on this site, fukk are you talking about ???

I spent 30 GODDAMN YEARS of my life studying Black/African history,

You will NEVER find a single post from me where I deny African origins for Black Americans, not one you STUPID bytch.

And the post you responded about, wasn't even about Black Americans, but "Afro Latinos" where I stated they had West-Central African ancestry from 400 years ago.

What the fukk about that leads you poor reading comprehension retarded azz to concluded, I'm denying Africa??????

And to your other "Point" , Black Americans DID HAVE AN ETHNOGENESIS ON AMERICAN SOIL, and ONLY a STUPID MUTHAFUKKA WOULD DENY THIS.

"Native Americans" also had an Ethnogenesis on American soil, THEY ORGINALLY CAME FROM SIBERIA.

Their "Ethnicity" was formed and shaped in America, THE SAME AS AFRICAN ORIGINED BLACK AMERICANS, YOU GOOFY BYTCH.

There ain't SHYT YOU CAN TELL ME ABOUT THIS SUBJECT, I'm already 30(Damn near 31) years deep In the subject.

you seem a little fragile.

 

[Ty Daniels]

you seem a little fragile.

And you seem like a LOW COMPREHENSION BYTCH




Wronger than a muthuafukka, came at me foul first, over me saying the Black Phenoype (Worldwide) originated in Africa.

 

[Wildin]

I don't remember us Dominicans saying anything about ADOS/FBA's narratives , that's between yall and Africans. We've never said things such as
we invented hip-hop ( That's puerto ricans) or anything similar. We honestly be leaving yall to your own devices and stick to our own culture.

I can respect that. I won't lump dominicans in with Puerto Ricans in regards to that, because it's not accurate and not right to do so.

Like someone else mentioned in this thread , if we said that we are black , yall would call us tethers ...and when we say we ain't black...yall call us c00ns so there's really no winning .

That's the problem. Everyone wants to "win". But when it's time to lose " that's all you, I'm different"

Just let us have our own shyt. Black people can't have anything to ourselves.

They should move those plates to the White/Black/Native Americans table only , and not make it accessible for immigrants , but until that happens...you can't really blame people for not taking opportunities given to them.

You are right. The opportunities shouldn't be available. It's just another one of those things. Black people can neither benefit nor suffer alone. Everyone's accomplishments are better than ours and the atrocities they've survived are greater than ours. They're great, we suck.