And you wonder why women don't report their rapists

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One of the original examples in the OP is a man who violently stranger raped numerous women, had at least TEN of them report their violent rape to the police and do a rape kit that picked up his DNA, and yet the police didn't even test ANY of those rape kits until the 11th women reported being raped 18 years after the first one had been raped. And there were tens of thousands of rape kits like that that hadn't been tested.

I've repeated that example four times now in this thread and I'm still seeing every deflection possible to avoid talking about the issue and turn it back on women instead.

This thread is about why our justice system is so terrible on rape, and yet most of the responses are either blaming the victims or blaming me for posting it. Why is that?


BECAUSE A LOT OF MEN ARE IN JAIL DUE TO FALSE RAPE ALLEGATIONS IN THIS ME TOO ERA

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BECAUSE A LOT OF MEN ARE IN JAIL DUE TO FALSE RAPE ALLEGATIONS IN THIS ME TOO ERA

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Virtually all the shyt I posted predates the "me too" era and has literally nothing to do with the types of cases you're bullshytting about.

Study after study by LE (who are the ones bushing these cases themselves) report that around 5% of rape accusations reported to police are false. So that doesn't even come close to explaining how 98% of men reported are getting off.

I will say, of the posters who wish to deflect from and ignore this topic, you might be the least surprising one.
 

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Virtually all the shyt I posted predates the "me too" era and has literally nothing to do with the types of cases you're bullshytting about.

Study after study by LE (who are the ones bushing these cases themselves) report that around 5% of rape accusations reported to police are false. So that doesn't even come close to explaining how 98% of men reported are getting off.

I will say, of the posters who wish to deflect from and ignore this topic, you might be the least surprising one.


I DONT BUY THOSE NUMBERS BUT IM NOT SURPRISED YOURE A MALE FEMINIST

I DO HOWEVER DOUBT THAT YOURE BLACK NOW, CONSIDERING HOW FALSE RAPE ALLEGATIONS HAVE HISTORICALLY AFFECTED THE BLACK COMMUNITY
 

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I DONT BUY THOSE NUMBERS BUT IM NOT SURPRISED YOURE A MALE FEMINIST

I DO HOWEVER DOUBT THAT YOURE BLACK NOW, CONSIDERING HOW FALSE RAPE ALLEGATIONS HAVE HISTORICALLY AFFECTED THE BLACK COMMUNITY

Yeah, ignore literally everything already said in the thread, including numerous receipts and deflection on that exact issue, in order to keep deflecting.

According to the jewish Trump supporter, it's now impossible for Black men to care about rape victims seeing justice and anyone who gives a shyt about this subject is "a feminist" and "probably not Black". :mjlol:
 

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Yeah, ignore literally everything already said in the thread, including numerous receipts and deflection on that exact issue, in order to keep deflecting.

According to the jewish Trump supporter, it's now impossible for Black men to care about rape victims seeing justice. :mjlol:


YOU TRY TOO HARD
 

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He white and his fam is rich.

Rich white men getting off is one of the biggest problems in our justice system.

But it's not the only problem. Are 98% of accused rapists rich white men? Explain Eric Eugene Wilkes or Alfred Berry or the 800+ serial rapists whose cases were sitting in a Detroit warehouse uninvestigated.

The issue with police failing to take rape seriously goes far past race and wealth alone. They are men in positions of power, is it really that surprising that they don't take these sorts of victims as seriously as they take other issues?
 

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Obviously a lot of cats here don't interact with women in any type of meaningful capacity. To be sure, there are a bunch of false rape accusations thrown around, but I think that is the cause of all the 'I need more data' responses. False rape accusations account for a miniscule amount of legal involvement that gets blown out of proportion in comparison to ACTUAL rape. I, personally know three women that were raped/assaulted: two by a family member, 1 by her husband. Their families pushed them to press charges as they were too ashamed to go on their own and THAT is the purpose of this thread. Rape is either underreported or not given serious investigative energy to prosecute. Oftentimes, both.​
 

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60 responses in this thread so far not counting my own. ~20 of them are attempts to deflect or question the stats.

I wonder if I had criticized the police on literally any other issue whether that would have been the case? :jbhmm:





I'm sorry but I don't believe the stats. You mean if I rape a woman I have a 98% chance of getting away with it? As in walking away willy nilly?:comeon:

It's just far, far from believable


After all the receipts in the thread, why wouldn't you believe it?

There were 11,000+ untested rape kits in Detroit alone. Multiple examples of violent criminal rapists getting positively ID'd for multiple violent rapes and still not going to jail. Numerous stats showing the same issue in different countries.

What would it take to convince you this is a really serious problem?

An Epidemic of Disbelief

Why Society Goes Easy on Rapists

Why are we so bad at prosecuting sexual assault?

Less than 1% of rapes lead to felony convictions

Only 1.7% of reported rapes prosecuted in England and Wales

Fewer than one in 60 rape cases lead to charge in England and Wales

Just 1.5% of all rape cases lead to charge or summons, data reveals
 

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Rich white men getting off is one of the biggest problems in our justice system.
Rape laws as a rule were framed originally for the protection of men of the upper classes, whose daughters and wives might be assaulted. What happens to working-class women has usually been of little concern to the courts; as a result, remarkably few white men have been prosecuted for the sexual violence they have inflicted on these women. While the rapists have seldom been brought to justice, the rape charge has been indiscriminately aimed at Black men, the guilty and innocent alike.

So I am not saying the above to refute you.
But if we address and fix the problem, won't that also fix the racism portion?

What I mean to say is that there's something wrong where girls/women are raped and either the rapist walks free or the wrong person is convicted.

So when others are brining up race, I don't see it as refuting the importance of the fact that 98% of rapists walk away free.
If anything it just shows how the problem compounds itself and if anything raises more red flags that the issue needs to be addressed.
Coli peeps, why are you mentioning race as opposition to the OP?

But it's not the only problem. Are 98% of accused rapists rich white men? Explain Eric Eugene Wilkes or Alfred Berry or the 800+ serial rapists whose cases were sitting in a Detroit warehouse uninvestigated.

The issue with police failing to take rape seriously goes far past race and wealth alone. They are men in positions of power, is it really that surprising that they don't take these sorts of victims as seriously as they take other issues?

I remember when Covid started, many was saying it was fake, and what I was saying is that yes govt does lie, but the way to differentiate between reality and a fake conspiracy theory is scale!
So that many countries could not have been lying about Covid deaths, it's just way too many people of too many countries involved.
Same thing here, that many women cannot be lying about being raped, it's just not possible.

Yes false rape accusations do exist, but I greatly doubt that they represent the majority of rape allegations.
In fact the number is probably not as bad as reality as many women keep silent about being raped.
 

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I used the statistics that are available, and some of the reporting agencies include other forced sex acts. Apparently you're okay with 49 out of 50 people who commit "rape and other forced sex acts" going free, because this deflection is your only contribution to the thread.

Do you have any evidence that the conviction and imprisonment rate for rape is significantly less than that? Because I've posted numerous receipts that those are violent rapists who are getting let off on a regular basis, and you're ignoring it. What do you think of the hundreds of thousands of rape kits that aren't even tested? Or the statistics that show the average serial rapist rapes 7 to 11 victims before he is finally incarcerated? Or Detroit alone having over 800 serial rapists already in their untested rape kits including over 50 men who had been reported for at least 10-15 rapes and yet still had the kits just sitting there cause police couldn't be bothered to keep looking into them?



Here's some more: How to Catch More Serial Rapists




So he had raped numerous women after kidnapping them at knifepoint and gunpoint, those women had reported the rapes on at least 6 different occasions, multiple women had been able to successfully identify him and bring him to court, he was in the system for other violent acts, and he STILL got off each time until they finally tested the old rape kits and found his DNA all over the place. And even then they let the motherfukker plea bargain down to second-degree charges and get a lighter sentence even though the case was airtight and his rapes were as textbook a definition of 1st-degree rape as you could possibly imagine.

And for all the original, "But this is just a White perp thing!" deflectors, go ahead and google that guy.
More straw man. So the claim that 49 of 50 alleged rapists go free was made up. That's all I was curious about:manny:
 

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The bullshyt that goes on with rape in the justice system is about far more than White privilege.

This man (happens to be Black, but it's irrelevant to the case) committed at least ELEVEN violent stranger rapes over 18 years, had women report the rapes and get rape tested with his DNA showing up in every single one, was already in the system for robbery and carjacking.....but he wasn't arrested for the first ten rapes cause police never even tested the rape kits after they took them. Made the women come in, give their statement, get their private parts invasively tested and examined after already having undergone a violent invasion of their most private selves.....and then the police just filed the fukking kits in a warehouse without even testing them or doing any further investigation.





Regardless of who the perp is, the justice system doesn't care about rape cases. You have to get cops, a D.A., and judges who are completely militant about that shyt or it just dies away.

An Epidemic of Disbelief

these devils need to pay but aren’t you arguing with me HL about our justice system locking too many people up?
 

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There is a thread on this already.

It’s called white privilege at its finest.



@Rhakim wants to take a sensitive issue to make his comeback after being exposed as a democrat shill. I see ya breh. Not derailing the thread but folks aint slick
 
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