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Andre Berto describes what fighting floyd mayweather is like
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You think it's "crazy" to suggest that Whitaker might be on Floyd's level defensively?Breh's are crazy
Sweat Pea was great but Mayweathers a step above him, Mayweather was more disciplined and had better balance
That's crazy?
Columbo
Lieutenant
Pernell was floored a hand full of times because of being off balance, he was a bit sloppy at timesYou think it's "crazy" to suggest that Whitaker might be on Floyd's level defensively?
That's crazy?
Floyd was mote disciplines and was as close to perfection as we'll ever see
Its close but no way was Pernell better
Pernell took more risks than Floyd. Getting knocked down doesn't mean anything.
Erratic415
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I think Whitaker was slightly better during his peak. Mayweather, to his credit, is/was more disciplined with his lifestyle and training habits and stayed at the elite level longer. Whitaker was failing cocaine tests in his mid 30s, Mayweather was the best in the sport.
Definitely two of the best boxers I've ever seen. I did some analysis on a boxing forum awhile ago on a matchup between the two, I'll go look for it.
Definitely two of the best boxers I've ever seen. I did some analysis on a boxing forum awhile ago on a matchup between the two, I'll go look for it.
Erratic415
Superstar
Oh here it is, I wrote it years ago
Pretty close overall in both defense and offense. Floyd has more consistent pop in his shots. Whitaker could do more damage with single left hands, do to timing or loading up on it or whatever. He unified the LW titles on a single left hand in the 1st round against Nazario, basically ended the Lomeli fight with one left hand, rocked Chavez briefly in the 8th round of their fight, and turned the Hurtado fight around with one left hand, and then almost killed him with the follow up lefts while Mercante Jr. stood there and watched. I guess Mercante Jr. can be really active when it comes to helping fighters "suck it up" and deliberately ignoring the requests of the chief second, but just stands there when guys almost get killed with punches.
Whitaker had the superior jab as his right jab was simply brilliant, although Floyd's jab is excellent too, as he has the best jab to the body I have ever seen. Floyd's left hook is better than Whitaker's right hook IMO. Floyd's straight right is better overall in effectiveness than Whitaker's straight left. Whitaker has the edge in workrate and combinations. They are both excellent body-punchers. I give Whitaker the slight edge due to him letting his hands go more and how frequently he contorted his body to get the angles on body punches. There is one instance early in the 8th round against Hatton that I've seen probably 1,000 times because it's so great to watch, when Floyd pivots his body to get the angles on these bodyshots against Hatton (during the part when Manny Steward says Ricky is bringing out the best out of Floyd). He then again uses the jab to the body to set up a right to Ricky's head.
Whitaker did this quite often. He got these weird angles due to his body movements and how he got low. Unorthodox but not necessarily technically unsound either, it would give him angles for offense and also for defense.
Anyway, on offense they are pretty close as they both have areas in which they were better at. Whitaker had an edge on defense. I doubt anyone would get hurt since they were defensive masters and the chances of Whitaker landing a shot on Floyd like he did against Nazario or Lomeli is very slim.
I think Whitaker's pesky jab and superior workrate would be the difference in a close decision. 7-5
Pretty close overall in both defense and offense. Floyd has more consistent pop in his shots. Whitaker could do more damage with single left hands, do to timing or loading up on it or whatever. He unified the LW titles on a single left hand in the 1st round against Nazario, basically ended the Lomeli fight with one left hand, rocked Chavez briefly in the 8th round of their fight, and turned the Hurtado fight around with one left hand, and then almost killed him with the follow up lefts while Mercante Jr. stood there and watched. I guess Mercante Jr. can be really active when it comes to helping fighters "suck it up" and deliberately ignoring the requests of the chief second, but just stands there when guys almost get killed with punches.
Whitaker had the superior jab as his right jab was simply brilliant, although Floyd's jab is excellent too, as he has the best jab to the body I have ever seen. Floyd's left hook is better than Whitaker's right hook IMO. Floyd's straight right is better overall in effectiveness than Whitaker's straight left. Whitaker has the edge in workrate and combinations. They are both excellent body-punchers. I give Whitaker the slight edge due to him letting his hands go more and how frequently he contorted his body to get the angles on body punches. There is one instance early in the 8th round against Hatton that I've seen probably 1,000 times because it's so great to watch, when Floyd pivots his body to get the angles on these bodyshots against Hatton (during the part when Manny Steward says Ricky is bringing out the best out of Floyd). He then again uses the jab to the body to set up a right to Ricky's head.
Whitaker did this quite often. He got these weird angles due to his body movements and how he got low. Unorthodox but not necessarily technically unsound either, it would give him angles for offense and also for defense.
Anyway, on offense they are pretty close as they both have areas in which they were better at. Whitaker had an edge on defense. I doubt anyone would get hurt since they were defensive masters and the chances of Whitaker landing a shot on Floyd like he did against Nazario or Lomeli is very slim.
I think Whitaker's pesky jab and superior workrate would be the difference in a close decision. 7-5
Listen you can never get May off his game plan he's the most disciplined fighter of all time..
seemorecizzy
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this is insane
O.T.I.S.
Veteran
You can tell he was trying not to give Floyd TOO much credit and snuck a couple shots in there but as a competitor AND a pro its expected
You can tell that despite the story being funny, it mustve been frustrating to describe how dude beats you and you barely touch him or he makes you not want to throw, takes you out your rhythm, puts you in the hole to where you become desperate to hit him but the more you throw the worse it gets
I think the only person that can beat Floyd is somone that can catch him early like Mosely did ir someone that boxes similar/smarter than Floyd
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O.T.I.S.
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Thing is, he could always open up when he wants but he just does enough to win the rounds and keep it interesting...
But its really not his fault if people miss him though. He makes good fighter look incredibly bad and always has
