Angie Martinez interview with 2Pac (Text excerpts from book)

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Stretch also said he ain't hear no shots at one point. Never visited or wrote Pac. And started hanging out wit nikkas he wasn't fukkin wit. Reason Pac stopped fukkin wit him. And don't even bring up Lil Shawn. U actin like he's a valid non bias party is laughable. That lil nikka is an all time lying snake ass nikka. fukk him. U believe him when he said Jimmy got Biggie jumped?
biggie was friends with stretch before pac got shot
why couldn't he continue to hang out with him?
and isn't that further proof that big had nothing to do with it since stretch was had a gun to his face during the robbery?
oh my bad, i forgot, stretch was it on too
set up his good friend pac for no reason

its strange how so many of pacs good friends just woke up one day and set him up to get robbed. not only that, we all gonna be at the studio chilling while it happens lmao

pac was high as fukk during the whole incident, add some gun shots and a stomping and u get a paranoid ass nikka
 

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We cant say what Biggie knew or didnt know...Pac was convinced up til his death Biggie knew for a fact..if Biggie is running with the dudes who set him up then Pac had a reason to be mad..esp if he sayin Pac would always be his man..even if Biggie didnt know..he put himself in that position to be shyt on..

Dont know if we can say this either though,i dont kniw if at the time of his death he still believed they knew or not....seemed like he may have realized he got some bad info but wasnt quite ready to fully say he was wrong,plus after you go so far you cant really turn back,and by then they were taking shots on record and interviews,and putting out bountys:sas1:...so either way im sure Pac still felt vindicted to continue what he was doin.
 

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The problem is this...

Big knew but so did Pac...
Biggie really was down with pac..but couldnt do sh!t against Jimmy and them ..

Pac knew he couldnt do sh!t against him either...so he went on his rampage against big...
Thats the issue, they both knew..Pac from these interviews felt I put this nikka on..let him do his perform in middle of his shows, took cases for him and he couldnt ride with me?! I can understand why he felt that way..obviously biggie felt he needed to look out for himself and Pac beef wont his beef...read the nikka interview..he spoke on all that shyt..he went at biggie since he was they earner..he wanted to fukk they money up, it aint like he just picked some random nikka out..im sure he felt he couldnt fukk with them on a street level but on the music tip he wanted to run them dudes out the game..
 

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Dont know if we can say this either though,i dont kniw if at the time of his death he still believed they knew or not....seemed like he may have realized he got some bad info but wasnt quite ready to fully say he was wrong,plus after you go so far you cant really turn back,and by then they were taking shots on record and interviews,and putting out bountys:sas1:...so either way im sure Pac still felt vindicted to continue what he was doin.
The interview with Rob marriot which was 2 or so weeks before his death showed his mind set..he was still shytting on biggie and whoever else he felt had wronged him..thing is biggie was kicking it with the nikkas that robbed him..now put yourself in his position and tell me if that was your man that wouldnt look funny to you? That narrative of pac was buggin out and scared to diss the real guys and all that shyt is bunk now esp when we got Pac not only talking about who shot him and who knew what...thr only thing we dont know at this point is why all this shyt went down in the first place..its pretty much all out there now
 
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:mjlol: what nerve


u wanna listen to somebody that investigated this
notice the part were he clearly states those medical records were conflicting


Here u go with this Greg Kading retard again. Lol. nikka u can look as far as the comments under the video. Dude isn't credible and everyone except u knows this. Lol
 

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where do you come up with these weirdo theories:russ:
big WARNED pac not to hang around with them on more than one occasional
pac didn't listen
i really don't no what pac expected from biggie
pac was acting like a star struck nikka that never experienced street life
once shyt popped off, he was embarrassed and started going on these temper tandrums that ultimately led to him getting shot up again
Breh...I'm not coming up with this theory I'm just putting together what PAC seemed to be saying...I said "I wasn't saying this was true...I was just piecing together what PAC was saying". I think big let him know not to be around certain people too....but still PAC says different.
 

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@kingofnyc how bout this? Do u believe when Greg Kading says Puff was partly responsible for Biggie's death? Or that Puffy put a hit out on Pac? Do u believe when he says Biggie's mom knows Puffy was partly responsible? If u believe all of these theories. U can post that shytty Greg Kading video. If u dont. Leave that nikka out of it. Greg Kading was LAPD and wasn't even there for the NYC shooting in the first place.
 

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where do you come up with these weirdo theories:russ:
big WARNED pac not to hang around with them on more than one occasional
pac didn't listen
i really don't no what pac expected from biggie
pac was acting like a star struck nikka that never experienced street life
once shyt popped off, he was embarrassed and started going on these temper tandrums that ultimately led to him getting shot up again

This is the routine theme for those that side with big on this issue. I personally kind of believe this too:patrice:...but what puts puffy, big or anyone from that label above the thought they could have known something. This situation is completely up in the air on who you choose to believe. Even though big may have warned PAC I can't say nobody from bad boy didn't know...how do u know that? I don't. Pacs judgement at the time was so horrible that setting him up would have been and proved to be rather easy. One thing is for sure BIG and Bad Boy were much more sophisticated and savvy about things than what PAC and his team were, both before and after his into to deathrow...:manny:
 

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@kingofnyc how bout this? Do u believe when Greg Kading says Puff was partly responsible for Biggie's death? Or that Puffy put a hit out on Pac? Do u believe when he says Biggie's mom knows Puffy was partly responsible? If u believe all of these theories. U can post that shytty Greg Kading video. If u dont. Leave that nikka out of it. Greg Kading was LAPD and wasn't even there for the NYC shooting in the first place.

I'ts a known fact that Badboy was down with the south side crips. So I do believe Pac was discussed when they met. I even believe Puff told them he wanted pac and suge dead. I even believe he said...I would pay a million for those mf....
But I also think that Big knew nothing, that it wasnt straight bussiness betweet Puff and them but in a informal kind of way. And it's a fact that the Orlando beatdown caused the Pac murder.

Imagine the Murder Rap doc going to court... On both sides (yes even the biggie murder) the case was not strong enough. Puff never paid Keeffe D.. so good luck matching that...
 

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This is the routine theme for those that side with big on this issue. I personally kind of believe this too:patrice:...but what puts puffy, big or anyone from that label above the thought they could have known something. This situation is completely up in the air on who you choose to believe. Even though big may have warned PAC I can't say nobody from bad boy didn't know...how do u know that? I don't. Pacs judgement at the time was so horrible that setting him up would have been and proved to be rather easy. One thing is for sure BIG and Bad Boy were much more sophisticated and savvy about things than what PAC and his team were, both before and after his into to deathrow...:manny:

till this day I think Big had no Idea what Puff was doing..

Puff Daddy is a modern day Mafioso....
Biggie was a big black street dude from Brooklyn
 

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BIG didn't know Pac was even coming to the studio that night. Some cats in another studio knew (Lil Shawn I believe) but BIG didn't. I'm sure he found out quick but what was he supposed to do? And you say BIG was running with them...running with Jimmy Henchman? No. He may have known him, but you aint never heard they was cool like that. Point blank, Pac was paranoid. Maybe he had reason to be. But somehow, Jimmy having him robbed (the shooting was not even supposed to happen) turned into this whole I hate Biggie thing that eventually led to the worst time in our culture.
Wrong. .the dude Dexter who supposedly robbed Pac said biggie was his man
 

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I'ts a known fact that Badboy was down with the south side crips. So I do believe Pac was discussed when they met. I even believe Puff told them he wanted pac and suge dead. I even believe he said...I would pay a million for those mf....
But I also think that Big knew nothing, that is wasnt straight bussiness betweet Puff and them. And it's a fact that the Orlando beatdown caused the Pac murder.

Imagine the Murder Rap doc going to court... On both sides (yes even the biggie murder) the case was not strong enough. Puff never paid Keeffe D.. so good luck matching that...
That statement wasn't for u my g. I'm speaking on what Greg Kading said and I'm directing it straight at @kingofnyc. He doesn't ever admit to any wrongdoing on Biggie or Puffy's part. Every thing is always ALL Pac. We talkin bout a nikka who got on LA radio and dissed Pac AFTER his death here.
 

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I'ts a known fact that Badboy was down with the south side crips. So I do believe Pac was discussed when they met. I even believe Puff told them he wanted pac and suge dead. I even believe he said...I would pay a million for those mf....
But I also think that Big knew nothing, that is wasnt straight bussiness betweet Puff and them. And it's a fact that the Orlando beatdown caused the Pac murder.

Imagine the Murder Rap doc going to court... On both sides (yes even the biggie murder) the case was not strong enough. Puff never paid Keeffe D.. so good luck matching that...

he was hurt probably pissed at the same time

i don't think him or 'pac wanted each other dead
 
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