Angie Martinez interview with 2Pac (Text excerpts from book)

[3rdWorld]

Ready To Die isn't a 93 release nikka. It dropped in 94. And late 94 at that. Illmatic came first. Biggie was already fukkin wit Thug Life at the time. I don't see nobody correcting u wit that tho. Just Daps. Cause like I said. If it's about shyttin on Pac. It's cool. Inaccuracies don't matter.

So where are all the Thug Life Biggie collabo's then, if they were fukking with each other that hard. Drinking and smoking and hanging out doesnt count..

 

[kingofnyc]

So u agree they backpeddled? And u agree they had issues wit Biggie and New York? Cause according to the bias nikkas in this thread. They was cooler wit Biggie than Pac was. So they understand why Snoop said he was cool wit them on the radio. See. If u look at all the facts. nikkas is full of shyt. And no matter what. Biggie comes out to be right. I was arguing nikkas down cause I was saying how could a nikka be cool wit a nikka who sent goons at em. nikkas was posting Pics of DPG hanging out wit Biggie back n the day. So which one is it? Lol.

ok
i got it
ur post was mainly about me

with dat said

No.1
yes snoop was tight with biggie im not going to go as far as saying their relationship was tighter then snoop & pac but that's neither here nor there

No.2
biggie said on air to paraphrase 'i cant believe nyc is gonna allow 2pac & death row to come to our city to record the video for new york new york' he didnt say snoop
IMO he wouldnt have done this to snoop

No.3
biggie had to feel some ill wayz he had the beat 1st from what i remember on that st ides commercial add the fact with pac joining DR and dem talking mad reckless i personaly dont feel biggie actions were outta line (as i said before not gun shots but most definitely bumrushing the vid shoot to shut down)

No.4
its not about bias toward biggie & saying everything he did was right & everything pac did was wrong
its about facts wether u believe them is on u (and them facts was simply. pac started his beef with biggie over something biggie had nothing to do with - even if one gave pac the benefit of the doubt of the false claim of biggie so-called knowingly knew about the quad set up should have been the beginning and end
but pac couldnt do that - he had to find something like -biggie stole my style -biggie slept on my couch -biggie couldn't get no bytches -i fukk his wife -i'll shoot his kids -blah.... blah.... blah.... blah....
YET da nikkaz dat rep'd for biggie are bias to u


again, all these years later its been stated & YES proven by his personal/dearest friend 2pac was a method actor just acting out this biggie beef 'like dude said he(pac) took it too far

 

[spliz]

ok
i got it
ur post was mainly about me

with dat said

No.1
yes snoop was tight with biggie im not going to go as far as saying their relationship was tighter then snoop & pac but that's neither here nor there

No.2
biggie said on air to paraphrase 'i cant believe nyc is gonna allow 2pac & death row to come to our city to record the video for new york new york' he didnt say snoop
IMO he wouldnt have done this to snoop

No.3
biggie had to feel some ill wayz he had the beat 1st from what i remember on that st ides commercial add the fact with pac joining DR and dem talking mad reckless i personaly dont feel biggie actions were outta line (as i said before not gun shots but most definitely bumrushing the vid shoot to shut down)

No.4
its not about bias toward biggie & saying everything he did was right & everything pac did was wrong
its about facts wether u believe them is on u (and them facts was simply. pac started his beef with biggie over something biggie had nothing to do with - even if one gave pac the benefit of the doubt of the false claim of biggie so-called knowingly knew about the quad set up should have been the beginning and end
but pac couldnt do that - he had to find something like -biggie stole my style -biggie slept on my couch -biggie couldn't get no bytches -i fukk his wife -i'll shoot his kids -blah.... blah.... blah.... blah....
YET da nikkaz dat rep'd for biggie are bias to u


again, all these years later its been stated & YES proven by his personal/dearest friend 2pac was a method actor just acting out this biggie beef 'like dude said he(pac) took it too far

Who is this closest friend u keep mentioning that he was method actor? Who is this? Pac been gettin into dumb shyt since he was living in Marin City. Pac always had a loud mouth his whole life. Pac was fighting on tour wit Digital Underground. And buggin out and startin fights n shyt. And that was BEFORE Juice.

 

[Bigsuk]

ok
i got it
ur post was mainly about me

with dat said

No.1
yes snoop was tight with biggie im not going to go as far as saying their relationship was tighter then snoop & pac but that's neither here nor there

No.2
biggie said on air to paraphrase 'i cant believe nyc is gonna allow 2pac & death row to come to our city to record the video for new york new york' he didnt say snoop
IMO he wouldnt have done this to snoop

No.3
biggie had to feel some ill wayz he had the beat 1st from what i remember on that st ides commercial add the fact with pac joining DR and dem talking mad reckless i personaly dont feel biggie actions were outta line (as i said before not gun shots but most definitely bumrushing the vid shoot to shut down)

No.4
its not about bias toward biggie & saying everything he did was right & everything pac did was wrong
its about facts wether u believe them is on u (and them facts was simply. pac started his beef with biggie over something biggie had nothing to do with - even if one gave pac the benefit of the doubt of the false claim of biggie so-called knowingly knew about the quad set up should have been the beginning and end
but pac couldnt do that - he had to find something like -biggie stole my style -biggie slept on my couch -biggie couldn't get no bytches -i fukk his wife -i'll shoot his kids -blah.... blah.... blah.... blah....
YET da nikkaz dat rep'd for biggie are bias to u


again, all these years later its been stated & YES proven by his personal/dearest friend 2pac was a method actor just acting out this biggie beef 'like dude said he(pac) took it too far

This was my point ... I like pacs music better then bigs ... But that dont make me bias towards pac as a grown man what he started n continued to do was just wrong ..... Was biggie innocent no ... But he didnt start the beef with pac ..... N i agree pac flipflopped in interviews what his actul issue with biggie was .... 1 min its been involoved in the set up , next he knew before hand , next he took my style , etc it was childish behavior .... Which is sad cause pac was much smarter then that .... Like i said he got caught up in a saving face situation and there was no turning back ...

 

[Bigsuk]

Who is this closest friend u keep mentioning that he was method actor? Who is this? Pac been gettin into dumb shyt since he was living in Marin City. Pac always had a loud mouth his whole life. Pac was fighting on tour wit Digital Underground. And buggin out and startin fights n shyt. And that was BEFORE Juice.

Pacs friends from marin city said pac would scrap but they also threw shade on him if u will ....they said the image he projected to evveryone with the thug / deathrow image was not him ....

 

[Big Skilly Films]

Pac always had a loud mouth his whole life. Pac was fighting on tour wit Digital Underground. And buggin out and startin fights n shyt. And that was BEFORE Juice.

you mean this pac?

 

[spliz]

Pacs friends from marin city said pac would scrap but they also threw shade on him if u will ....they said the image he projected to evveryone with the thug / deathrow image was not him ....

U talkin bout them grimey ass nikkas from Thug Immortal who dissed him basically the whole shyt unless they was talkin bout what he did for them? Ok. That's old news and it's been established them nikkas wasn't his real homeboys. Also he got into less trouble on Death Row than before.

 

[spliz]

you mean this pac?

Yup. That Pac.

 

[Big Skilly Films]

Yup. That Pac.

you sure it wasnt this pac?

 

[spliz]

you sure it wasnt this pac?

That Pac too.

 

[Bigsuk]

U talkin bout them grimey ass nikkas from Thug Immortal who dissed him basically the whole shyt unless they was talkin bout what he did for them? Ok. That's old news and it's been established them nikkas wasn't his real homeboys. Also he got into less trouble on Death Row than before.

Maybe they did throw some salf on him .... But everyone said pac was wild liked fighting but noone said he was a thug or anything like that maybe they tellin the truth they been around him before he ws famous they seen what he was like ..... I never disputed the fact he got in less trouble on deathrow .... But he was getting himself deeply involoved in the piru -tip n him n suge n them beating nikkas up ....again you dont wait til your 20+ to start thuggin you either are 1 or not no inbetweens ...

 

[Mac Casper]

So where are all the Thug Life Biggie collabo's then, if they were fukking with each other that hard. Drinking and smoking and hanging out doesnt count..

"House of Pain"
"Running"


+ various live performance

 

[spliz]

Maybe they did throw some salf on him .... But everyone said pac was wild liked fighting but noone said he was a thug or anything like that maybe they tellin the truth they been around him before he ws famous they seen what he was like ..... I never disputed the fact he got in less trouble on deathrow .... But he was getting himself deeply involoved in the piru -tip n him n suge n them beating nikkas up ....again you dont wait til your 20+ to start thuggin you either are 1 or not no inbetweens ...

Pac always said he wasn't no gangster. Literally out his own mouth. Pac was always wild. and he always went hard for whatever he believed at the given time. nikka wasn't no method actor. Even in jail. He said he wasn't in no gang while he did his interview in jail as well. He linked wit Suge and Suge was fukkin wit Piru's and Pac needed Suge and his people for obvious reasons. It wasn't like the nikka woke up on some Birdman shyt and said he wanted to be a blood. And I bet nikkas won't call Birdman fake and he joined blood when he was like 40...

 

[spliz]

So where are all the Thug Life Biggie collabo's then, if they were fukking with each other that hard. Drinking and smoking and hanging out doesnt count..

nikka they got music together what u talkin bout?

 

[Mac Casper]

27 pages in . . Now the battle to understate and overstate the Tupac-Biggie relationship begins. Rather than just accepting it for what it is, let's speculate beyond the information that is available to us and find our own reality, no longer seeking information but affirmation of our view points instead