Any atheists that weren't ALWAYS atheist?

[Johnny Kilroy]

I already sense where you're going with this, and Im not about all that back and forth shyt with another nikka who just wants to argue

Just know that not everybody is gonna subscribe to a belief system, when it is rooted in lies, exaggerations, and threats

Especially when its followers pick and choose which spiritual doctrine they're gonna follow according to their material lifestyle

That's cool. I, personally, don't subscribe to any belief system myself.

But I think it's a bit arrogant and ignorant to just blow off somebody else's beliefs and even call it a lie just because you don't believe in them. Say you don't believe and leave it at that. Besides, I think your disbelief is based in the wrong place. You're too busy worried about a man walking on water. I don't think that's what the bible is about.

Theists believe in a creator, not necessarily that a man walked on water. You're basing your entire belief/disbelief on something that I simply don't see as really being that important.

 

[Sandy_Cheeks]

that's terrible...i consider myself christian but i don't really ascribe to the whole church aspect, my relationship with Jesus is personal imo. But i don't think we were put here to just be fruitful and multiply. Many pastors i have talked too say they would RATHER people question things, because that leads to learning. If we were given these abilities of complex thought and problem solving are we not to use them? I don't think its wrong to question God because the nature of mankind is inquisitive. I also don't think God is about to rain hellfire and brimstone on people just because they aren't perfect.

I was personally raised in a "non-religious" christian home. There was a belief in Jesus but there wasn't that crosses everywhere feel to it. My momz actually wanted me to study many different religions and find out what was right for me...it just so happens that Jesus is my homey.

I understand the agnostic position more than atheist but I respect it all, we are all just trying to navigate life in the way we see fit. And I REALLY don't see how people can't just talk about religion and spirituality (or lack there of) in an intelligent way.

Nothing angers me more than an atheist going "lol god " or a theist going "u don't believe in God!!! you going to hell!

respect everyone's beliefs, we'll see who was right in the end no point in arguing.

I agree and I like your stance. It is always an extreme... either your going to heaven and your saved or your an atheist and your goin to hell .

smdh. It doesn't have to be that way. I don't believe in a God who punishes those who are imperfect considering we are all trying to figure out this thing called "life" anyways. We all fukk up and we all make mistakes.

I just wish on both sides of the spectrum there is more understanding, acceptance, and respect for all religions/spirituality regardless of what one subscribes to.

I plan on teaching my children to study all religions and to also respect those who believe differently from them.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

real talk that's one of the foundations in my belief, its all to systematic and everything is just one big fractal after another.

How all the minerals in the human body exist in the same percentages (from what we know) in the universe. How planets spin around suns, which spin around bigger suns, which spin around galactic cores, which spin around some other shyt.

Mistake isn't a good enough explanation to me, neither is the big bang. But then again, its my stance that science = God.

I'm with you on that science = God tip. I wasn't raised Christian so I don't have this image of a big ass white dude with a long gray beard chilling in the clouds wearing a toga and some sandals as "God."

But take the big bang for example, even if that was 100%, no qualms about it true, what caused the big bang? If evolution was 100%, no qualms about it true, what is the force behind evolution?

That's what I think of when I think of God.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

is it just me or is atheism starting to become a religion? the other i had a group of athiest had me a flier about atheism and tried to preach to me about their belief in the lack of beliefs. They also have an information table set up outside my schools campus.

the whole time i'm like now athiests are acting like jehovah witnesses? It just goes to show you that people can be fanatical for just about anything. how long until we a some sort of church(i doubt they would call it that) for athiest people?

It is becoming a religion. They stay trying to spit that propaganda. Just take the coli as an example. How often do you see "religious" folks making threads to push their agendas? Atheists do that shyt all the time.

It's definitely a religion. They don't wanna admit that but it is. Just not a very organized one that's the only difference between theirs and most.

 

[SwagmundFreud]

It is becoming a religion. They stay trying to spit that propaganda. Just take the coli as an example. How often do you see "religious" folks making threads to push their agendas? Atheists do that shyt all the time.

It's definitely a religion. They don't wanna admit that but it is. Just not a very organized one that's the only difference between theirs and most.

If atheism is a religion then what are the tenets and dogma of atheism?

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

If atheism is a religion then what are the tenets and dogma of atheism?

IDK. It's not my religion.

 

[Luke Cage]

If atheism is a religion then what are the tenets and dogma of atheism?

fukk tenets and dogma

i'm talking about the problems that arise from having a group of people with the same beliefs trying to force their beliefs on others. from that standpoint athiesm is no different than any other religion. btw you can have tenets and dogmas without being a religion. buddhism for example.

 

[Tom]

I'm with you on that science = God tip. I wasn't raised Christian so I don't have this image of a big ass white dude with a long gray beard chilling in the clouds wearing a toga and some sandals as "God."

But take the big bang for example, even if that was 100%, no qualms about it true, what caused the big bang? If evolution was 100%, no qualms about it true, what is the force behind evolution?

That's what I think of when I think of God.

natural selection.

Stop being ignorant and take a biology class brehs. Organisms changing and adapting to their environment has nothing to do with a supernatural force/power.

u wanna know the underlining force? It's a species will to survive

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

natural selection.

Stop being ignorant and take a biology class brehs. Organisms changing and adapting to their environment has nothing to do with a supernatural force/power.

u wanna know the underlining force? It's a species will to survive

So an entire universe just appeared? From nothing? The big bang was just an explosion of nothing?

And you're okay with that explanation?

 

[SwagmundFreud]

IDK. It's not my religion.

Is bald a hair color?

fukk tenets and dogma

i'm talking about the problems that arise from having a group of people with the same beliefs trying to force their beliefs on others. from that standpoint athiesm is no different than any other religion. btw you can have tenets and dogmas without being a religion. buddhism for example.

Bro, atheism preaches nothing and how can a atheist preach a belief when they lack one?

 

[Tom]

That's cool. I, personally, don't subscribe to any belief system myself.

But I think it's a bit arrogant and ignorant to just blow off somebody else's beliefs and even call it a lie just because you don't believe in them. Say you don't believe and leave it at that. Besides, I think your disbelief is based in the wrong place. You're too busy worried about a man walking on water. I don't think that's what the bible is about.

Theists believe in a creator, not necessarily that a man walked on water. You're basing your entire belief/disbelief on something that I simply don't see as really being that important.

If you have a PHD in anthropology and every scientist across the globe regardless of nationality/ethnicity all unanimously agree that the biblical creation myth isn't factual then why is it not okay to acknowledge that it isn't true?

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Is bald a hair color?



Bro, atheism preaches nothing and how can a aheist preach a belief when they lack one?

Good question. So why yall be preaching so much?

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

If you have a PHD in anthropology and every scientist across the globe regardless of nationality/ethnicity all unanimously agree that the biblical creation myth isn't factual then why is it not okay to acknowledge that it isn't true?

I don't know much about the biblical creation story so

But if these people are anything like you I have about a million reasons not to listen to a god damn word they say.

 

[SwagmundFreud]

Good question. So why yall be preaching so much?

What am I preaching? Im not even advocating atheism or anything, im just refuting your ignorant claims.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

natural selection.

Stop being ignorant and take a biology class brehs. Organisms changing and adapting to their environment has nothing to do with a supernatural force/power.

u wanna know the underlining force? It's a species will to survive

Evolution is a proven scientific fact, but the arguments against it are all wrong. Just because evolution exists doesn't disprove or prove the existence of God. Human beings don't even look like how we used to look 500 or 600 years ago. We have gotten taller and leaner as a species.


Almost nothing looks like the way it did when it emerged as a species, still doesn't say that God doesn't exist. Like i said if anything i think its just another system God put in place.

God is in the details.

And atheism isn't a religion but it is a belief system. There is no doctrine or practice to atheism, but it is a way of thinking and observing the world that shapes how you feel, think and act.

But again, its juvenile to me to try and disprove God to someone by saying "go to biology class". Biology is a science which is an observation of systems and organisms within those systems. Who's to say those systems aren't divinely created. but this shouldn't make people say "oh God made it" so stop examining and asking questions (which happens way too much).

i'm not trying to convert you, i'm just saying understand the opposing perspective so you don't come off like a douchebag.