Any atheists that weren't ALWAYS atheist?

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

And theists and atheists alike are clowns for pushing their beliefs onto others, like previously stated i avoid wacky atheists the same way i avoid jehovas witnesses

Considering neither of them knows WTF 'G-d' is in the first place, arguing whether or not 'it' exists is a waste of time and energy.​

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Considering neither of them knows WTF 'G-d' is in the first place, arguing whether or not 'it' exists is a waste of time and energy.​

thats kinda my point, i respect all the view points hell im basically a relativist and a social functionalist. There are very few ABSOLUTE TRUTHS that exist to me on the planet, which is why arguing this topic is particularly asinine to me because non-believers are asking believers to prove something who's very nature makes it unproveable, and believers try to make non-believers ascribe to something that isn't rooted in logic...

its talking to a brick wall on both ends. I still prefer to pick peoples brains about it though. No harm in having conversations, but i try not to turn them into arguments.

 

[Tom]

Anyway, this wasn't a debate thread


this was a thread for atheist who have come out of the closet (pause)


Theist invaded it as usual and then complained about us shoving beliefs down their throats

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

thats kinda my point, i respect all the view points hell im basically a relativist and a social functionalist. There are very few ABSOLUTE TRUTHS that exist to me on the planet, which is why arguing this topic is particularly asinine to me because non-believers are asking believers to prove something who's very nature makes it unproveable, and believers try to make non-believers ascribe to something that isn't rooted in logic...

its talking to a brick wall on both ends. I still prefer to pick peoples brains about it though. No harm in having conversations, but i try not to turn them into arguments.

That is all.

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[Camammal]

I was born Christian in Uganda, if you were claiming anything else they would kill you, no question. I believed hard of course but what really pushed me over the edge is when my parents left me with my aunt whom later would take me to America and saved my life essentially. She couldn't take care of me so I was in and out foster homes and most of the homes had the children go to church. Those same people who took us to church would abuse us and sometimes make sexual advances but it was then when in realized I had to stop praying and get out of that predicament. God was not there all those nights I prayed for help, the nights I was getting beat and for my parents to help (not realizing they were both dead). Getting rid of religion gave me strength to leave that place when i was 17. Later in life I learned my parents never believed in religion, they were forced to just like I was. Americans have it good, you guys have a freedom of religion but for most the rest of the world it can get you killed.

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[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

what i find interesting, and a little disheartening, is how atheists usually become atheists. most of their beliefs are shaped through how others carry out their beliefs. like, they usually stop believing in God because of how others who believe in God act. i don't believe your belief in God should be based on how the rest of the world acts. belief is more or less based on what you've experienced and what you've tried to bring out of yourself spiritually speaking, not what someone else is doing. not to mention, even the ability to connect spiritually shows the power of the unseen. i feel like they shut down their sense of spirituality (something that's uniquely human) so they don't have to deal with it or the issues that arise when you run into a person with a bad spirit. and when you do that, at that point why would you believe in God? you have no other way to be connected to him/her/it (in whatever sense you believe in God) without that connection. there's no empirical evidence to prove or disprove the existence of God so to rely in anything aside from spiritual connections is a waste of time.

just my thoughts on the matter...

 

[Mister_DoItNice]

Why did this thread turn into hypothesizing about who's on the right path and other nonsense? People are simply coming in here to tell their story. This is why I don't even discuss religion with people in my personal life because if I don't think what you think then something is wrong with me and I need to be fixed. People don't even recognize their own arrogance.

 

[Mister_DoItNice]

Anyway, this wasn't a debate thread


this was a thread for atheist who have come out of the closet (pause)


Theist invaded it as usual and then complained about us showing beliefs down their throats

Exactly. If you're not here to tell your story then fall back. Nobody is telling you to be a none believer.

 

[Will Ross]

This is the coli your not going to get any real debates on the subject.

 

[blatantlyobvious]

what i find interesting, and a little disheartening, is how atheists usually become atheists. most of their beliefs are shaped through how others carry out their beliefs. like, they usually stop believing in God because of how others who believe in God act. i don't believe your belief in God should be based on how the rest of the world acts. belief is more or less based on what you've experienced and what you've tried to bring out of yourself spiritually speaking, not what someone else is doing. not to mention, even the ability to connect spiritually shows the power of the unseen. i feel like they shut down their sense of spirituality (something that's uniquely human) so they don't have to deal with it or the issues that arise when you run into a person with a bad spirit. and when you do that, at that point why would you believe in God? you have no other way to be connected to him/her/it (in whatever sense you believe in God) without that connection. there's no empirical evidence to prove or disprove the existence of God so to rely in anything aside from spiritual connections is a waste of time.

just my thoughts on the matter...

Lol. There's no empirical evidence supporting claims of anything related to spirituality, though. You do know that, right? And, honestly, when you think and be real about it: you believe in god because it's something that's been traditionally taught from generation to generation... the disbelief therein is usually recognized when the individual realizes that there's nothing supporting their blind belief other than someone else's word of mouth. Ijs.

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[blatantlyobvious]

I was born Christian in Uganda, if you were claiming anything else they would kill you, no question. I believed hard of course but what really pushed me over the edge is when my parents left me with my aunt whom later would take me to America and saved my life essentially. She couldn't take care of me so I was in and out foster homes and most of the homes had the children go to church. Those same people who took us to church would abuse us and sometimes make sexual advances but it was then when in realized I had to stop praying and get out of that predicament. God was not there all those nights I prayed for help, the nights I was getting beat and for my parents to help (not realizing they were both dead). Getting rid of religion gave me strength to leave that place when i was 17. Later in life I learned my parents never believed in religion, they were forced to just like I was. Americans have it good, you guys have a freedom of religion but for most the rest of the world it can get you killed.

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Epic. Sorry to read that, bro. I'm Greek, though, and luckily for me I never had it that hard. I simply moved on with my life.

That is truly ridiculous, though. To kill someone for not sharing your beliefs is completely archaic and barbaric. Religion and spirituality honestly should have never been introduced to the world... there'd be a lot less discrimination, murders in the name of a good god, etc. without it.

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[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

Lol. There's no empirical evidence supporting claims of anything related to spirituality, though. You do know that, right? And, honestly, when you think and be real about it: you believe in god because it's something that's been traditionally taught from generation to generation... the disbelief therein is usually recognized when the individual realizes that there's nothing supporting their blind belief other than someone else's word of mouth. Ijs.

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of course i realize that, that's my whole point. it's an experience you have to believe in to have something happen. the simple fact that you choose to only pay attention to facts and empirical data and evidence, you end up disconnecting yourself from the belief and the experience. and your mention about it being taught from generation from generation, that's a powerful thing to say. think about it, it's our only connection to our spiritual growth as humans and the one thing that has defined our humanity since our conception. if you don't think there's something to that and that it's just some bullshyt, i don't know what i can say to you. the facts behind the matter are this: the belief in God has been here before your existence, and i doubt the sudden appearance of ideas that there is none won't change the fact that belief in God has existed for since we can remember and will exist past our lifetime. in fact, it is what we remember and what we hold to.

that's powerful shyt when you really think about it...

it's just like believing in yourself so you can do certain things. if you don't think you can do something, you won't.

 

[DaRealness]

is it just me or is atheism starting to become a religion? the other i had a group of athiest had me a flier about atheism and tried to preach to me about their belief in the lack of beliefs. They also have an information table set up outside my schools campus.

the whole time i'm like now athiests are acting like jehovah witnesses? It just goes to show you that people can be fanatical for just about anything. how long until we a some sort of church(i doubt they would call it that) for athiest people?

I've found that a lot of atheists are just as annoying as the religious people they speak against. In my experience, the ones who have left religion and became atheists are worse because their whole modus operandi in the way they 'preach' their message is the same, the only difference is, they (claim to) no longer believe in a god but aggressively try to push their views/ideas on you when you're doing just fine the way you are.

Plus many of them follow Richard Dawkins and many other high profile atheists no differently than many religious folk will follow Crumpled Dollar and other religious leaders.

 

[Ohnoits]

A lot of people drop religious faith during or after college. I never believed any of that stuff even when I was a kid, so I was just counting the days to go to college and not have to put up with it anymore and be myself.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

na i really believed. i guess im agnostic now, and was atheist for some time, but i was raised catholic and believed without a shadow of a doubt that everything i had been raised to believe was true..

Same for me. It's all a crock of shyt now to me. My girl is a Christian though. Perfect gf in the world, no complaints, but from time to time she tells me she wants me to be a man of god and shyt. I asked her a few times what exactly does that mean :nonikkas: and she starts rambling.

Great GF, but I'm not doing the church thing. She can easily be replaced if she tries to force me.