Any Black Americans that have absolutely NO roots down south?

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I’m from Va and i can confirm through my family tree and genealogy works that a lot of black Virginians was moving to Philly in the late 1800s/early 1900s. Seen family members from multiple lines of my tree make that move.
 

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There's one line in my family that goes through NYC as far back as I'm aware, but that's not that far(late 1800s). I hit dead ends in the past. I'll look into it again and see if I find anything new


Edit to add: but that's just through one great grandparent. The rest are from the south and the caribbean. My grandfather moved up north during the great migration and met my grandmother in Brooklyn. I'd imagine it would be pretty hard to get this far down the line and have procreated exclusively with the relatively small number of black people who trace back to ships that came straight to northern states
 

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old thread but:

Yes. they exist in the North East but most are either the roots of various "Black Amerindian" tribes (Shinneck, Pequot, Lenape, Mohegans, etc..) or blended with ADOS from the South who have been migrating North since the 1700s, who also are foundations to the aforementioned tribes.
 

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old thread but:

Yes. they exist in the North East but most are either the roots of various "Black Amerindian" tribes (Shinneck, Pequot, Lenape, Mohegans, etc..) or blended with ADOS from the South who have been migrating North since the 1700s, who also are foundations to the aforementioned tribes.

Can't be that many, though...
 

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Actually I do. My wife traced my people to Massachusetts, immediately ran to Canada then my moms half went to Chicago, My fathers half settled in St Louis, then after they married they moved here to Houston and had me.
 

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Can't be that many, though...

obviously in raw numbers it was never a comparison


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but if you look in the right places, you'll find them

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they're often have links to these tribes

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see ODB (also of southern ados stock but his Cuffee line is all Northern)

 

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obviously in raw numbers it was never a comparison


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but if you look in the right places, you'll find them

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they're often have links to these tribes

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see ODB (also of southern ados stock but his Cuffee line is all Northern)


I want to see the 23andMe. :unimpressed:
 

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I mean do you know any black Americans who has ancestors they have never set foot in the south? Because I don’t think I’ve ever met any.
Yes. Slavery existed in the Northern States too. Massachusetts had America's first slave Statute in 1641. Slaves were also imported directly into New York City. Wall Street started as a slave market. So the answer is yes. There are Black Americans that have no roots in the South.
 

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Actually I do. My wife traced my people to Massachusetts, immediately ran to Canada then my moms half went to Chicago, My fathers half settled in St Louis, then after they married they moved here to Houston and had me.

The amount of ADOS in the South with Northern ADOS roots is probably bigger than most people realize because the ends are blended

both of these Northern ADOS-descended


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have descendants in the South right now


she descends from Allen

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and they from Jones


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Cook joins the firm with an outstanding portfolio of design leadership and award-winning projects throughout the United States—particularly in the D.C. area—encompassing museums, memorials, embassies, libraries, cultural and learning centers, and mixed-used corporate and neighborhood master planning. Among Cook’s high-profile projects are the Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of African American History and Culture, Watha T. Daniel / Shaw Neighborhood Library, Embassy of South Africa and Saint Elizabeths East Gateway Pavilion.


That great-grand uncle was Julian F. Abele, one of the first and most prominent black architects in American history. Born in 1881, Abele excelled as an architect of whatever skin color: graduating from the University of Pennsylvania, studying at the École des Beaux-Arts, and then becoming chief designer of the renowned Philadelphia firm Horace Trumbauer. A Beaux Arts adherent and committed Francophile, Abele championed American revival architecture in a series of high-profile commissions that included the Free Library of Philadelphia, Harvard’s Widener Library, and the original campus of Duke University. But for the most part, he did so with Trumbauer’s imprimatur. “He was a shy and retiring person, he didn’t like being in front,” Cook says.

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Shyt, I don’t know of many family members of mine up north. Got a few in Michigan, and quite a few in New York & Maryland, but the majority of us live down here. It was always fun interacting with my fam from Maryland and Michigan at family reunions
 

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I want to see the 23andMe. :unimpressed:


:russ: unlike them pretendian Lumbee cats from the South, ODB's people actually show admixture. These people (his relatives) all have the Cuffee surname

his direct great great grandpa (wickham cufee) is the old man sitting down in this photo


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others from the same clan

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