any lessons black americans can learn from the native americans? were they racist

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OP has a inferiority complex to white people.
too many posters have called you a troll and a racist for ALL of them to be wrong...

Anyway, thread isn't about white people... it's about black people... I feel it would be foolish to not learn from history. You can't change the nature of others, but you can focus on what you need to do to avoid and overcome continuing situations.
 

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Money talks. They're all inclusive when they're broke and fearing annihilation but give um a couple billion they feel like they dont need nikkas anymore. At least you know you dont have to feel sorry for them when they get stereotyped in the media. Black folks always looking for allies in communities that have no respect for them.

Yeah.. pretty much idk if black people have alliances or not... I do know that beef from around the world never was really directed at us and that at first the Natives provided some of our largest group escapes from slavery..... pretty much the only way to keep ur fam intact was to run to the Natives...

That's irrelevant now... what is a group that is still getting fukked who was almost extinct gonna do for us. They really don't have a voice in this nation .... and nearly all of their non 'indian' children who reside in North America look to Spain and random other nationalities of CAC as their father - so whatever with all that shyt.

There is no reason we can't learn from their shyt because the SAME exact methods with a modern spin have been played on us. Revolutionaries in the 60's used to bring the shyt up because it's very relevant.

Think about it like this.... Indians help them built their first settlements here. For 15 or 20 years the neighboring Natives lived at peace with the cac - then when the cac got greedy they decided to go inland and Jesus told them that rape and murder would make it easier.. Also with the help of other Tribes who accepted thier materialism they were able to pit brother against brother (psychological warfare)- even tribes that had treaties, even tribes that were peaceful. Then they topped it off with biological warfare. Finished with destroying the family structure, customs, and emasculating or killing the Males. Marring and/ or raping the women and girls.... creating an entire media campaign around the idea that the oppressed were the violent ones the barbaric ones.......

so the point isn't about alliances- it's about not falling for the same shyt.
 

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Indians killed black folks too. they were hired by the government to kill us in the Seminole Wars

So when I was a kid... like 17 I used to kick some shyt about black Seminoles and about escaped slaves. Many of us escaped to their lands in Florida..... AFter age 21 Idk about John Horse and people like him.

We have to understand that the Native, the black mixed with Natives, and the Slaves weren't exactly in the bargaining positions of power. It's hard for me to criticize if I wasn't there. First off Indians killed indians too..... So I'm not gonna go there about why some of that occurred in the name of white supremacy. (you should read these commanders diaries n shyt)

But if you take someone like John Horse... we was black and indian.... and negotiated between the US and the Naives during wars. After he was granted his freedom the - black indians gained freedom for more slaves than anyone. Idk if they killed blacks or not. I know that generally the vast majority felt like this.....
the speech in the OP
.... towards blacks.

They didn't have a reason to kill blacks. They were drunk tribes, that used European weapons, who were controlled by cac commanders, who were dependent - who killed blacks. Who am I do judge with my perspective- knowing my history and knowing that every male in my fam served the us military and guard units since slavery - including black Army volunteers who went around murking indians in mass. All that shyt is by design.. all that shyt is part of the plan. It's wrong, but understanding it makes you closer to avoid repeating it.
 

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Well, some tribes owned slaves. Im sure they were treated better then the slaves owned by Europeans but still, they owned slaves so im sure many tribes are pieces of shyt.
Pre-contact forms of slavery were generally distinct from the form of chattel slavery developed by Europeans in North America during the colonial period. European influence greatly changed slavery used by Native Americans. As they raided other tribes to capture slaves for sales to Europeans, they fell into destructive wars among themselves, and against Europeans.
Many Native American tribes practiced some form of slavery before the European introduction of African slavery into North America; but none exploited slave labor on a large scale.

Native American groups often enslaved war captives whom they primarily used for small-scale labor.
European colonists caused a change in Native American slavery, as they created a new demand market for captives of raids. For decades, the colonies were short of workers. Especially in the southern colonies, initially developed for resource exploitation rather than settlement, colonists purchased or captured Native Americans to be used as forced labor in cultivating tobacco, and, by the eighteenth century, rice, and indigo. To acquire trade goods, Native Americans began selling war captives to whites rather than integrating them into their own societies.

Slave traders preferred captive Native Americans who were under eighteen years old, as they were believed to be more easily trained to new work.In the Illinois Country, French colonists baptized as Catholics Native American slaves whom they bought for labor. They believed it essential to convert Native Americans to the Catholic faith. (I wonder why)Church baptismal records have thousands of entries for Indian slaves.:dry:

In the Spanish colonies, the church assigned Spanish surnames to Native Americans and recorded them as servants rather than slaves.:stopitslime:

In the early colonial days, Native Americans were enslaved along with Africans, and both often worked with European indentured laborers. "They worked together, lived together in communal quarters, produced collective recipes for food, shared herbal remedies, myths and legends, and in the end they intermarried." Because both races were non-Christian, Europeans considered them other and inferior to Europeans. They worked to make enemies of the two groups. In some areas, Native Americans began to slowly absorb white culture. :comeon:


Benjamin Hawkins, (TALK about a demonic muthafukker ) Superintendent of the tribes south of the Ohio River from the late eighteenth century through the early nineteenth, encouraged the major Southeast tribes to adopt chattel slavery in order to have labor for plantations and large-scale agricultural production, as part of their assimilation of European-American ways.The Five Civilized Tribes adopted some practices which they saw as beneficial; they were working to get along with the Americans and to keep their territory.



I have some books that talk about what CAC referred to as the Five Civilized Tribes.... that gets deeper.. but wiki surprising crushes the tip of the ice.
 
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I swear if you read these comments not knowing the website you would think its white people talking.

Blacks , African American, love to believe they are winning. That's why blacks chose their leaders by how much money they have instead of knowledge/intelligence.

White people are the most destructive race but blacks are the most self destructive race .

blacks are scared of whites , thats why they never went to war & never left their side . Rather complain and barely get by.

to collectively say , Africa doesn't want us, or who wants to go there ?( jokingly ) is sad. It shows no belief in your own race.

you helped tremendously to build the white man nation , so in this day in age why is it out this world to do it for your selves, please answer.

as of now blacks are going to be written in history as slaves and entertainers that could never get it together as a culture.

for now your culture is hip hop nd sports , that is ran by , guess who , white men.

Wait, maybe my perspective is wrong.

Why in the hell would you leave the white man side, they continually winning, they let you eat . the rest of the world is losing, everybody wants to be black. jesus was black, blacks were the original humans , we stay winning , Obama half black , tiger is half black, jay z is a genius , we winning, our bytches are twerk machines, you see this polo, see these diamonds , we winning . Native Americans are idiots why fight the white man , we winning.

lets ignore the truth

Nd i aint racist, leave that comment somewhere else. i once fell victim to the winning mentality, but the truth is one hell of a drug. i love yall.

fukk the white man and anybody who love em.
 
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Yeah even though the Natives lost and are damn near extinct I always admired the way they went out fighting.

Sometimes I sit back and think about the trans-atlantic slave trade and it's like damn...how did so many people get enslaved without some type of major war being lost or some shyt....like, how does something like that even go down. Those Africans did their own people dirty as fukk.
 

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The Natives were just being xenophobic, major Europhobia. All cultures are equal, multiculturalism and diversity enrich peoples lives. Why are the natives so racist?
 

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The Indians went out for the same reason Africans went out, they got overwhelmed by science and technology, that is the #1 historical lesson black people or any people should learn from Native American history

I agree 100%. Also would like to add superior military tactics. Not to say the Incas and Mexica didn't have any, they were definitely empires who we know now to have enslaved or wiped out smaller tribes and groups of hunter-gatherers, but the Europeans were on some other shyt. The Europeans were invading and enslaving one another for a thousand years prior to ever setting foot in the Americas. From about 500 BCE to 1945 CE, the amount of European vs European warfare is mind boggling. Matter of fact, when the Europeans met an enemy who was equally matched in skill, technology and tactics, they suffered significant losses. The Crusades is a good example of this. Islam was having a technological and scientific Renaissance, the heads just came out of several imperialistic endeavors around the world in spreading the faith, so they were battle tested and militarily organized . They put a whooping on the Europeans and took European land.

"Guns, Germs and Steel" hammers this point home. Must read and watch.
 

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too many posters have called you a troll and a racist for ALL of them to be wrong...

Anyway, thread isn't about white people... it's about black people... I feel it would be foolish to not learn from history. You can't change the nature of others, but you can focus on what you need to do to avoid and overcome continuing situations.

Yeah, when you type something someone doesn't agree with or gets emotional about on the 'net you're called a troll. I just dislike generalizations, especially about 'race,' when all race is is micro differences between those who genetic lineage lived in different areas of the world. Humans are too closely related no matter how we look to be generalized by race.
 

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Yeah, when you type something someone doesn't agree with or gets emotional about on the 'net you're called a troll. I just dislike generalizations, especially about 'race,' when all race is is micro differences between those who genetic lineage lived in different areas of the world. Humans are too closely related no matter how we look to be generalized by race.
Generalized? everyone generalizes.. including you on ur troll soap box. Even if race is a social construct... we are a freakin social animal... the most social animal... so all of our 'constructs' and divisions have played and continue to play important roles in how we interact with each other..... It becomes even more important to certain groups because of the sheer amount of demonic behavior some groups have done.
 

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Yeah even though the Natives lost and are damn near extinct I always admired the way they went out fighting.

Sometimes I sit back and think about the trans-atlantic slave trade and it's like damn...how did so many people get enslaved without some type of major war being lost or some shyt....like, how does something like that even go down. Those Africans did their own people dirty as fukk.
yeah....
 
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