any lessons black americans can learn from the native americans? were they racist

[Blackking]

Actually you do get on some bogey man shyt, you constantly make posts talking about some kind of conspiracy by the white man and how he's gonna get us if we don't watch out

Your response to any new ideas is .....oh but what about the white man

Capitalism is a great thing, the more we engage in it the more powerful and richer we will be, and also we should promote individual freedom and economic freedom, which are wonderful concepts

Never said the white man is gonna get us and all that shyt you are talking. My response to any idea is appropriate... lol at you calling c00nery new ideas. I'm dead at that shyt... you don't even have ideas you have catchphrases.

Either way, you don't like pro black people, revolutionaries, any black person who isn't down with western imperialism, or anything closely resembling any of that BS. - i get it. However, the fact that you have to make up caricatures about white boogy man and conspiracies - - clearly shows that you have a narrow mind and that your thought process makes you not even worth discussing this shyt with.

You live in a fantasy world were harmful ideas are good ones. Where speaking on white supremacy and agendas is conspiracy and racist. Where talking about history is counterproductive. Where pro-black means fearful... Were Malcolm X and any black leader who was radical in the 60's would be called 'scared negro' in your warped twisted POV.

It's gross and disgusting.


And literally every comment you have ever made about capitalism is just Naive as shyt for a grown man who is pushing 40. I feel bad for you.

 

[theworldismine13]

Never said the white man is gonna get us and all that shyt you are talking. My response to any idea is appropriate... lol at you calling c00nery new ideas. I'm dead at that shyt... you don't even have ideas you have catchphrases.

Either way, you don't like pro black people, revolutionaries, any black person who isn't down with western imperialism, or anything closely resembling any of that BS. - i get it. However, the fact that you have to make up caricatures about white boogy man and conspiracies - - clearly shows that you have a narrow mind and that your thought process makes you not even worth discussing this shyt with.
You live in a fantasy world were harmful ideas are good ones. Where speaking on white supremacy and agendas is conspiracy and racist. Where talking about history is counterproductive. Where pro-black means fearful... Were Malcolm X and any black leader who was radical in the 60's would be called 'scared negro' in your warped twisted POV.

It's gross and disgusting.


And literally every comment you have ever made about capitalism is just Naive as shyt for a grown man who is pushing 40. I feel bad for you.

breh first of all, I understand that you envision yourself as the Malcolm X of HL, but you're not

its funny as hell you saying that you never said the white man is gonna get us, and then you say the white man is gonna get us

 

[Blackking]

breh first of all, understand that you envision yourself as the Malcolm X of HL, but you're not

its funny as hell you saying that you never said the white man is gonna get us, and then you say the white man is gonna get us

I don't envision myself as anyone but me. I wish that all black people were about progressing (without c00ning) BUT this is type of shyt I'm talking about though - OF Course I think I'm Malcomx or of course I think this and that.... All these caricatures + plus your relentless unapologetic c00nery is why this is the last post before you are on ignore. SMH. I hope in a few years when your 45 you will get a clue.

idk what u mean by the white man is gonna get us but your just trolling with the rest...

 

[unit321]

...The white people are like poisonous serpents: when chilled, they are feeble and harmless; but invigorate them with warmth, and they sting their benefactors to death. ...
Snakes on a plane. That's all there is to say.

Mods can lock this thread now.

 

[theworldismine13]

I don't envision myself as anyone but me. I wish that all black people were about progressing (without c00ning) BUT this is type of shyt I'm talking about though - OF Course I think I'm Malcomx or of course I think this and that.... All these caricatures + plus your relentless unapologetic c00nery is why this is the last post before you are on ignore. SMH. I hope in a few years when your 45 you will get a clue.

idk what u mean by the white man is gonna get us but your just trolling with the rest...

sure, whatever you say little buddy

 

[DEAD7]

breh first of all, I understand that you envision yourself as the Malcolm X of HL, but you're not

 

[Odyssey]

Not trolling with this question, i am honestly curious. What would blakking and others who support his view want? The only logical thing i can think of is the control of their own country within the united states, completely black ran. I really don't know how else to remedy this, it seems the very presence of white people is a problem.

 

[the cac mamba]

racist?

how is he supposed to feel about the race that eradicated his? positive? the history of this country is a fukkin disgrace

 

[Crakface]

LOL true...or they merged with other minority groups such as black people in the north to hide in plain site.

And ran to Alaska to become sc

Pre-contact forms of slavery were generally distinct from the form of chattel slavery developed by Europeans in North America during the colonial period. European influence greatly changed slavery used by Native Americans. As they raided other tribes to capture slaves for sales to Europeans, they fell into destructive wars among themselves, and against Europeans.
Many Native American tribes practiced some form of slavery before the European introduction of African slavery into North America; but none exploited slave labor on a large scale.

Native American groups often enslaved war captives whom they primarily used for small-scale labor.
European colonists caused a change in Native American slavery, as they created a new demand market for captives of raids. For decades, the colonies were short of workers. Especially in the southern colonies, initially developed for resource exploitation rather than settlement, colonists purchased or captured Native Americans to be used as forced labor in cultivating tobacco, and, by the eighteenth century, rice, and indigo. To acquire trade goods, Native Americans began selling war captives to whites rather than integrating them into their own societies.

Slave traders preferred captive Native Americans who were under eighteen years old, as they were believed to be more easily trained to new work.In the Illinois Country, French colonists baptized as Catholics Native American slaves whom they bought for labor. They believed it essential to convert Native Americans to the Catholic faith. (I wonder why)Church baptismal records have thousands of entries for Indian slaves.

In the Spanish colonies, the church assigned Spanish surnames to Native Americans and recorded them as servants rather than slaves.

In the early colonial days, Native Americans were enslaved along with Africans, and both often worked with European indentured laborers. "They worked together, lived together in communal quarters, produced collective recipes for food, shared herbal remedies, myths and legends, and in the end they intermarried." Because both races were non-Christian, Europeans considered them other and inferior to Europeans. They worked to make enemies of the two groups. In some areas, Native Americans began to slowly absorb white culture.


Benjamin Hawkins, (TALK about a demonic muthafukker ) Superintendent of the tribes south of the Ohio River from the late eighteenth century through the early nineteenth, encouraged the major Southeast tribes to adopt chattel slavery in order to have labor for plantations and large-scale agricultural production, as part of their assimilation of European-American ways.The Five Civilized Tribes adopted some practices which they saw as beneficial; they were working to get along with the Americans and to keep their territory.



I have some books that talk about what CAC referred to as the Five Civilized Tribes.... that gets deeper.. but wiki surprising crushes the tip of the ice.

O i see, they were the good house nikkas. You will always be the enemy tomorrow when yo're dealing with those Euros. Allies are just a pit stop.

 

[Crakface]

Yeah.. pretty much idk if black people have alliances or not... I do know that beef from around the world never was really directed at us and that at first the Natives provided some of our largest group escapes from slavery..... pretty much the only way to keep ur fam intact was to run to the Natives...

That's irrelevant now... what is a group that is still getting fukked who was almost extinct gonna do for us. They really don't have a voice in this nation .... and nearly all of their non 'indian' children who reside in North America look to Spain and random other nationalities of CAC as their father - so whatever with all that shyt.

There is no reason we can't learn from their shyt because the SAME exact methods with a modern spin have been played on us. Revolutionaries in the 60's used to bring the shyt up because it's very relevant.

Think about it like this.... Indians help them built their first settlements here. For 15 or 20 years the neighboring Natives lived at peace with the cac - then when the cac got greedy they decided to go inland and Jesus told them that rape and murder would make it easier.. Also with the help of other Tribes who accepted thier materialism they were able to pit brother against brother (psychological warfare)- even tribes that had treaties, even tribes that were peaceful. Then they topped it off with biological warfare. Finished with destroying the family structure, customs, and emasculating or killing the Males. Marring and/ or raping the women and girls.... creating an entire media campaign around the idea that the oppressed were the violent ones the barbaric ones.......

so the point isn't about alliances- it's about not falling for the same shyt.

Black Americans are giving up on themselves and have become so beaten down they are happy to accept second class citizenship as long as the white man lubes them up before fukking them. Why do you think the death of a black child at the hands of a non-black is met with

*nikkas die every day b*

By a whos who of clowns in your radius.

 

[DEAD7]

I can't think of too many things more damaging to a community than feeding its youth the idea that the system doesn't work for them, is out to get them or they don't have a fair shot...(true or not)

When you apply that belief it's easy to see why our youth act the way they do...

Why try when the system is rigged, or the white man is waiting to shoot you down?

It's sad.

 

[Blackking]

Not trolling with this question, i am honestly curious. What would blakking and others who support his view want? The only logical thing i can think of is the control of their own country within the united states, completely black ran. I really don't know how else to remedy this, it seems the very presence of white people is a problem.

imma answer this since you asked but hopefully people don't attack me over it..............

Spoiler

the average white person isn't the problem.... for some reason people don't understand that. I guess that's why so many posters and so many black people in life are called racist for having legitimate pov's.

and yeah in a fantasy world - that would be idea. Not the without white presence part..... but the nation within a nation part.

But in the real world... you can understand situations without 'wanting' something more than the understanding. People shouldn't cry and act all crazy and defense (not talking about u) Every single time a black person brings up or examines history. History is important to every group and ethnicity on the planet. Most groups teach and learn about their history the good and bad.. who would I be to tell a Native American or Cambodian or French person they can't speak on their history?
The people who attack pro black people - Especially the black ones are see through. The only good thing about receiving the opposition to legitimate points is - that it acts as a filter.

What we want and don't want is...
1. Don't want to Dwell in the past - the topics come up and the shyt is spoken about in the black community because the vast majority of us do not know out history - not even recent history and don't understand the reasons behind the current state of things. Even some blacks that vaguely know the history - know it in a simplistic naive way and don't have the slightest understanding of how recent events affect current ones.

2. Do want to fix the black community - but honestly this has nothing to do with white people in the sense of who's job it is to fix it. There aren't any problack people that even come close to saying that or wanting that type of help....... but of course if a black person Dares to speak on things like prison industrial complex, drug wars, intentional disenfranchisement, etc etc.... they are dead wrong and somehow are suggesting cac intervention. No thank you they've 'help' enough. .

3. Usually pro black people would like upper class blacks and average 'others' to understand how and why the prison population in the US has doubled since the 90's. Without this understanding we can never get to root causes... without getting to root causes we can never solve anything. Of course some white people and nearly all black people in HL would love for you to believe that the sole reason for that is black kids are inherently criminal or their culture is worse than other groups - or even that they commit more crime. i went to a big 10 school.. but once I joined to military i attended an even better school for the sole purpose of getting a BA in Criminal Justice ---- Best thing i learned is that white criminologist know the truth... many white people know the truth... it's actually the black elite that are the most naive about the situation.... even most of the adults in my fam don't understand how an urban community could produce nikkas wilin out in a capitalistic society.. They are ONLY focused on the 13 year old who is fukking up... all the weight falls on the child.

4. capitalism.. the way American's do it is exploitative for all races in this nation. It's just strange how people think that 1% controlling all the wealth is ok. I guess that's just the way it is... the human mind seems to be conditioned to follow - but I would prefer if black people didn't actually buy the' bootstraps pull yourself up ' hype.... I went from poverty to being ok and I don't even believe that shyt. Most people w money don't believe that shyt. Most intelligent people don't believe that shyt. You have to understand how the system is fukked up to understand how to manipulate it. for example i had academic scholarship for 3 years to msu - i was like fukk that cuz the CS program would take me 6 and fukk student loans, because right away I have the nikkas from my hood I need to put on when I get on - don't have time to feed into the MAchine. joined the military ( i will accept any criticism about being black n doing that ) came out with no loans. Realistically black should receive automatic free education and 100% tax breaks - and that is just the Truth. But that will never happen so we have to play the system....... What we want is for at least half the masses to be educated on how to play the system..... and not buy into the BS. Yeah it's sad that most American's buy into the BS - but we have been getting fooled the longest so we should focus on us.

5. get away from revisionist history.
6. The masses. Not really satisfied with masses of us being lost in poverty and lost in reality. So for any race in this nation it's hard to go from poor to rich. It's hard to go from ignorant family to higher education. It's hard to go from the masses of any group to come up. It's the most difficult for blacks for additional reasons - but for some reason why pretend that 100 people here and there shows that it's a walk in the park to push through the fukkery. That's not true. Problem is it's very easy to leave ignorant people in the dust and to forget about the masses.... ntm ghettos produce desperation n that produces lost hope in teens. We really shouldn't divide ourselves from the masses of our youth just because they are slaves to capitalism, history, circumstance, hip hop industry, and whatever culture we developed after ours was intentionally stolen. We would like all successful blacks to try to reach them.
7. Online - you have to explain sooo much shyt that sometimes it comes off like white people might be part of some solution for blacks - but in real life when people discuss this shyt - it's usually with like minded individuals - so needless to say whites don't come up. c00ns don't come up either, but a few people, myself included, are very aware that a c00n is more destructive than white supremacy because he is one of the weapons of oppression - and doesn't even know it. A person can't popp off w/o a gun. The c00n is like the gun. The word c00n is used for lack of more offensive phrase....

 

[Blackking]

Brothers,—My people are brave and numerous; but the white people are too strong for them alone. I wish you to take up the tomahawk with them. If we all unite, we will cause the rivers to stain the great waters with their blood.

Brothers,—If you do not unite with us, they will first destroy us, and then you will fall an easy prey to them. They have destroyed many nations of red men because they were not united, because they were not friends to each other.

Brothers,—The white people send runners amongst us; they wish to make us enemies that they may sweep over and desolate our hunting grounds, like devastating winds, or rushing waters.

Brothers,—Our Great Father, over thegreat waters, is angry with the white people, our enemies. He will send his brave warriors against them; he will send us rifles, and whatever else we want—he is our friend, and we are his children.

Brothers,—Who are the white people that we should fear them? They cannot run fast, and are good marks to shoot at: they are only men; our fathers have killed many of them; we are not squaws, and we will stain the earth red with blood.

Brothers,—The Great Spirit is angry with our enemies; he speaks in thunder, and the earth swallows up villages, and drinks up the Mississippi. The great waters will cover their lowlands; their corn cannot grow,and the Great Spirit will sweep those who escape to the hills from the earth with his terrible breach.

Brothers,—We must be united; we must smoke the same pipe; we must fight each other's battles; and more than all, we must love the Great Spirits he is for us; he will destroy our enemies, and make all his red children happy.

They tried to tell us...

 

[The Hovering Heed]

Just re-read One of the realest post I ever made.

Had the face at my own work.

Good looking @Willy Waffle

 

[Blackking]

Indians killed black folks too. they were hired by the government to kill us in the Seminole Wars

This just means they gave up .

When you give up you can be used any way they want.




@timothy_strickland you always find all my old post to dap... why?