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You didn't tagged that nikka right Uncle grimes. @CopiousX And how is discussing biblical doctrine white washed? Malcolm X discussed topics in the bible. SMH. Theology isn't solely a white thing.

I'm confused as fukk. Here we got people telling me that this is our african history, practices we brought with us from west africa during the slave trade that the white man tell us is evil (which is true). and then I got you telling me this shyt is evil and quoting stuff from a bibble a white man made.

I dont know man. Do you think african people were doing this demonic practice on purpose during the slave days, did they know it was evil?

can you talk about your point a little bit more?
 

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Where did I say not to practice whatever spiritual or relgions belief you want bruh? I'm on the first page giving OP other threads on the topic and even refrence a fukking shop in our hometown he can go visit. You grabbing at straws atleast with me.
I'm confused as fukk. Here we got people telling me that this is our african history, practices we brought with us from west africa during the slave trade that the white man tell us is evil (which is true). and then I got you telling me this shyt is evil and quoting stuff from a bibble a white man made.

I dont know man. Do you think african people were doing this demonic practice on purpose during the slave days, did they know it was evil?

can you talk about your point a little bit more?
 

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How is talking about the Bible 'white washing'? We are warning you not to play with witchcraft and open the portal for spirits.
Grimes is a decent poster from times but this nikka gets annoying sometimes.He went on a tangent about nothing. According to his logic Marcus Garvey was a Christian so he white washed. Along with Rabbi Arnold Josiah Ford who he use to hang with too. SMH
 

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How is talking about the Bible 'white washing'? We are warning you not to play with witchcraft and open the portal for spirits.
You’re c00n

1. Why are you calling this witchcraft
2. there is no such thing as witchcraft

the fact people demonize spiritual aspects of black culture with no understanding of what it is shows a level coining they refuse to acknowledge about themselves.

you call this witchcraft but you dont say that for bhuddism, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism

a lot of you keep proving yourselves everyday you’re not really black
 

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I got a question. I grew up in Florida where African traditional spirituality is practiced alot among different sects of people and I know nikkas who practice them personally.

So as it relates to the topic of "white washing" aren't there some Bokors, Hougans, Babalawos, etc who initiate whites into the craft? Do they get a pass? I don't care what people believe or practice personally.
You’re c00n

1. Why are you calling this witchcraft
2. there is no such thing as witchcraft

the fact people demonize spiritual aspects of black culture with no understanding of what it is shows a level coining they refuse to acknowledge about themselves.

you call this witchcraft but you dont say that for bhuddism, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism

a lot of you keep proving yourselves everyday you’re not really black
 

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I got a question. I grew up in Florida where African traditional spirituality is practiced alot among different sects of people and I know nikkas who practice them personally.

So as it relates to the topic of "white washing" aren't there some Bokors, Hougans, Babalawos, etc who initiate whites into the craft? Do they get a pass? I don't care what people believe or practice personally.
Understand the divine is a source and everyone is connected, how you get their is up to you word to @Booksnrain

I do side eye the babalawos that bring in white people though because either they a con man or their is an alternate route they have for them, there is no way a white person is going to walk up into a shrine of sango or amadioha and not be met swift punishment unless said white person has a black ancestor or that shrine isn't really a shrine. You see a lot of white hispanics mainly cubans, dominicans, and brazilians getting a pass because some of them do have black ancestors that were once part of the culture. You see this mainly from Yoruba cultures because most of the Yoruba people were sent to south america
 

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I heard stories from my nikkas about cacs getting initiated or taught the traditions to only go off and sell books about the information they learned. I seen a picture years ago on fakebook I remember of some cac in a dashiki who became a priest of some sort. And most books today written on "magic" in the western world are written by cacs seems like from what I see at bookstores. Samething with Christian books. Sounds like "whitewashing" but like I said idc what anyone practices not ever thing is for everybody.
Understand the divine is a source and everyone is connected, how you get their is up to you word to @Booksnrain

I do side eye the babalawos that bring in white people though because either they a con man or their is an alternate route they have for them, there is no way a white person is going to walk up into a shrine of sango or amadioha and not be met swift punishment unless said white person has a black ancestor or that shrine isn't really a shrine
I remember the narrative being cacs stole "our science" on spirituality and that's how they took over and gave the common man a religion. But not I see it changed I guess.
 

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I heard stories from my nikkas about cacs getting initiated or taught the traditions to only go off and sell books about the information they learned. I seen a picture years ago on fakebook I remember of some cac in a dashiki who became a priest of some sort. And most books today written on "magic" in the western world are written by cacs seems like from what I see at bookstores. Samething with Christian books. Sounds like "whitewashing" but like I said idc what anyone practices not ever thing is for everybody.

I remember the narrative being cacs stole "our science" on spirituality and that's how they took over and gave the common man a religion. But not I see it changed I guess.
The one thing that TRULY pains me in this world is how black people want to be aligned with white people and others ethnic groups SO BAD.

I look at it like this, I personally don't need another person to help me to meet my goals because at the end of the the goals i need to reach can only be achieved by me doing the work.


Black people fr dont need anybody. Not white people, asians, middle easterners. Nada but we so quick to ally ourselves with other people. WHY?! for what ?! they can't do the work you. You still have to do that shyt yourself. Granted it helps to have friends in high places or places you can't reach but largely the bulk of the work is still yours and you still have to do it
Yea pm me your email i got you breh
let me get this book bro
 

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Yeah I feel you on that tbh.
The one thing that TRULY pains me in this world is how black people want to be aligned with white people and others ethnic groups SO BAD.

I look at it like this, I personally don't need another person to help me to meet my goals because at the end of the the goals i need to reach can only be achieved by me doing the work.


Black people fr dont need anybody. Not white people, asians, middle easterners. Nada but we so quick to ally ourselves with other people. WHY?! for what ?! they can't do the work you. You still have to do that shyt yourself. Granted it helps to have friends in high places or places you can't reach but largely the bulk of the work is still yours and you still have to do it

let me get this book bro
 

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do you consider these dudes to be White-Washed with with WS.
The statements they put down are not false. Quite true actually .Most religions are people playing around with their consciousness. It was pretty much trial and error until the ancient peoples(Olmec, indus Valley Indians, Egyptians, Sumerians,Hebrews, etc) set up a priest class.



The priests effectively kept track of what drove nikkas crazy and what empowered them. So @kevm3 is correct about it screwing with your mind. I was a stem major, so I dont subscribe to the exact language he used to describe it because its vague and open to interpretation, and generally leads to more confusion.

effectively,
  • demons=bad state of consciousness.
  • witchcraft= smartDumb nikkas running around in the woods combining religious sht they saw on youtube.


Most of this stuff was cloaked in metaphor to make passing it on to the next generation easier. Imagine explaining Freudian psychology to a peasant. Pretty hard, isnt it?:jbhmm: Rather than describe psychological phenomena, its easier to just attach the concepts to dieties and animals. Most of the things we argue about are glorified mnemonic devices.




A more tangible example of what I'm talking about is the lucid dreams, sleep paralysis, zigalini energy stuff people were fcking with a decade ago. You are messing with your neurons and inducing a state reminiscent to schizophrenia. Don't be suprised if that sht doesn't go away.
(I'll continue on my next post)
 

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I'm confused as fukk. Here we got people telling me that this is our african history, practices we brought with us from west africa during the slave trade that the white man tell us is evil (which is true). and then I got you telling me this shyt is evil and quoting stuff from a bibble a white man made.

I dont know man. Do you think african people were doing this demonic practice on purpose during the slave days, did they know it was evil?

can you talk about your point a little bit more?
(I'll finish my thoughts here)


On my last post, I said...

It was pretty much trial and error until the ancient peoples(Olmec, indus Valley Indians, Egyptians, Sumerians,Hebrews, etc) set up a priest class.


The priests effectively kept track of what drove nikkas crazy and what empowered them.

The above is subjective to each people group(and their priest class) . For example, a South American religion that dictates that one's bare skin must touch the sun at all times to be blessed by God, is obviously demonic to an Eskimo living in the arctic (-20°), because its mal-adaptive.


Similarly, an Eskimo religion dictating that you must where ceremonial bear fur at all times to be in touch with God, is just as demonic to a subsaharan African(85°) or a SouthAmerican (90°) because that act is mal-adaptive to equator dwellers.




So on your question, biblical or traditionalAfrican beliefs become Co0ning when black people start blatantly accepting concepts that harm them while demonizing and rejecting beliefs that are protective of them.
(Usually out of fear)


The blatant rejection of the vudu/santaria concepts that freed millions of people from the bonds of slavery is c00ning. :stopitslime:



Similarly, preaching only the peace passages of the new testament, while ignoring the war and economic segments of the Old testament is also Co0ning:manny:
 
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