Anybody calling reparations "divisive" is suspect

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They watch our people get murdered, brutalized, incarcerated, disrespected (and join in when applicable) at every turn....but reparations will divide America.

As if its possible they could hate you any more than they already do.

They fear being surpassed...because they understand what happens to those on the bottom from all those years of watching it happen to us.
 

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Yea this is kind of cheapening the conversation a little bit. The divisive talk isn’t for us getting money, it’s because the alleged spokespeople for Ados constantly say negative things about non ados and other groups.
The main conflict that I have for both ADOS and nonADOS is the tendency for either group to think that some duly-appointed white representative would have a substantial effort or policy interest, especially one with media ties. I align and side with ADOS in the validity of our claims and the causes. But I’m not understanding how non-ados and ados demean or outcast on each other (bc lets be real nonADOS are not going to have the same experiences and background in order to have empathy toward ados so I totally get that part and it is known that nonADOS tend to have this sense of apathy and lack of urgency in siding with us ) But to have this way of being inclusive to whites just bc they say what you want to hear in a soundbyte. That’s a conflict of interest, just like a nonADOS spokesperson or nonADOS being sanctioned as the representative organization on all reparations matters. If you’re going to talk the talk, don’t back down when whites think they can make decisions for us about us, when this has never been beneficial.

What I’m getting out of op’s post is the lack of unification and rule establishment bc of all the inner conflicts and lack of consistency. There’s levels to this.
 

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Yea this is kind of cheapening the conversation a little bit. The divisive talk isn’t for us getting money, it’s because the alleged spokespeople for Ados constantly say negative things about non ados and other groups.


Breh, she ain't on Africans heads like that, yes she got on luvie and that other African for being proud of her slave catcher amcestors, and some other non ADOS for comments they made regarding AA's. But course you would provide no context because it doesnt fit your narrative.
 

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:coffee::coffee::coffee: Only white people and NON ados say it's divisive but ask any black person that was enslaved by foreign countries would they like reparations... Those muthafukkas aint gonna turn down ANY check...:stopitslime: They are fukking lying...

It's only divisive if YOU don't want American Descendants of Slaves to succeed in getting their reparations...

The fact is the indians got it...

The Japanese got it...

The JEWS continuously get it PLUS OUR TAX MONEY ANNUALLY!!!

It's only divisive when it comes to fukking US?!!? :what: what do any of y'all NOT realize that...
 
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As long as black America doesn’t rise up and respond to our oppression with violence, do not expect much to change. :francis:
 

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I notice that this term is being thrown around in regards to reparations. Anybody using it to me is suspect, including members of groups that have already received reparations in some way shape or form in the past. And that also includes black people that aren't AA or are suggesting it's divisive?

Why the fukk is it divisive? please tell me that. Straight up. So why is reparations for AA divisive, and not the millions of times white people gave themselves handouts all throughout history? Why is that divisive but France's post-colonial taxation of 14 African countries that still goes on to this day not divisive? White people got the nerve to say that cause we had Obama and cause we got BET or some bullshyt that's reparatiojns:martin::rudy:
Deadass...this convo got fukking people that are representatives of companies that still profiting from slavery saying that reparations are divisive.
:mindblown:
This convo got white folks basically admitting that they want to juelz their way out of taking any responsibility or accountability for racism...but they still want to benefit from the privilege racism affords them.
:childplease:
Talking bout "my family ain't never owned slaves" and "I had nothing to do with that"
:whoa:
coppin all sorts of bytchmade pleas...but they know they got all the wealth power and privilege so as long as they can just say "I'm not racist" they can feel good about themselves continue to profit from white supremacy and the systematic oppression of black people and other non-whites.

They want to tell black peopel to stop seeking justice and restitution and just accept "god's lot" and like that white supremacist laura ingraham said..that's how MANY white people think. Don't get it twisted.

This convo also has reveled that white people simply have no desire to want to right the wrongs of the past, commit themselves to establishing any sort of equality or restorative justice, and absolutely refuse to play on an even playing field.

Even MLK said "get that check".

At this point, even though I'm African and West Indian and have no horse in this race in regards to reparations, I'm really starting to understand the frustration alot of AAs have with the Democrats and Republicans...both have pretty much said no...but they want the black vote so bad and I don't think they deserve it. Socialism was never really that much in the American discussion in the past five years, unless it comes to the subject of reparations...as a deflection. Dems seem to want to avoid the discussuon of income and wealth inequality in regards to race...they can acknowledge that the legacy of slavery is a stain on the country but they can't face the reality that the economic warfare that was waged against blacks following slavery and the end of the civil war was by design to keep Black Americans as a permanent underclass.

You know what's divisive?
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Look at this graph...and people think that shyt can just be figured out immediately if you just pull yourselves up from your bootstraps? How when they are cut intentionally over and over?
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The reparations debate is really stifled by people who don't want to admit that they were and are the benefifciaries of privilege and on the right side of inequality. Socialist programs like UBI and Medicare for All isn't going to attempt to fix what was decades upon decades of manipulation designed to create, keep, and maintain and underclass.

REPARATIONS ARE NECCESSARY AND MUST BE HANDED OUT/
I'm not just talking money given out to the families of slave descendents.
I;'m talking all of these banks, universities, colleges, businesses that profitted from slavery must give significant percentages of what they made BACK to AA/ADOS/AMERICAN BLACKS!
I'm talking FREE Education/College/University to all AMERICAN BLACKS!
I'm talking expungement/dismissal of ALL outstanding loans/student loans/mortgages to American BLACK PEOPLE.
I'm talking about the closure of institutions related to slavery that still actively profit from it.
I'm talking about bailouts for Black banks
Alladat.

Sorry for the long winded thread, but
I've been paying attention to this whole reparations debate from the sidelines.
And what I've noticed the most is people saying it's divisive, are mainly the ones benefitting and implementing divisiion themselves.

:mjpls:
It stems from certain non ados black people feeling entitled to everything that ados bled for in this country, when said non ados black people immigrate here :francis:

So they get offended if they arent included in all black-related occurrences

Its sad because if they supported ados to the point that most ados goals are met, we as a people could then focus on compensation for other groups

As with most complex issues, certain people's egos/emotions come into play(ex. Talib kweli) and their feelings obstruct them from thinking logically/critically

So they lash out:francis:
 

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African americans deserve reperations from the superpower they unwillingly gave free labor to for 400+ years for.

Whose really arguing against this?:what:

ALOT of people...:huhldup: everytime we try to talk constructively there they come with dumbass questions they constantly ask over and over again, its fukkING ANNOYING!!! :what:
 
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