Anybody else an alcoholic?

Tres Leches

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I’m never gonna give it up :blessed:



A six pack everyday is too much though :scust:



shyt will have you :flabbynsick: in a couple of years
 

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Why Taper?
Some people can just quit drinking alcohol cold turkey without having significant withdrawalsymptoms. Other people, however, may suffer significant withdrawal symptoms when they suddenly stop drinking. Alcohol withdrawal is potentially fatal, so if you find yourself starting to experience significant alcohol withdrawal symptoms when you stop drinking then it is important to gradually detoxify from alcohol rather than quitting all at once "cold turkey". You can gradually detoxify from alcohol by tapering off. You can taper off either by using alcohol itself or by using medications.
Some people may also find it easier to just taper off their alcohol use rather than jumping immediately into an abstinence day even if they do not have significant withdrawal symptoms.

Who is likely to have significant alcohol withdrawal symptoms?
  • People who have stayed drunk several days in a row
  • People who have gotten drunk every night for a month or more
  • People who have drank small amounts throughout the day for a month or more
  • People with a history of alcohol withdrawal symptoms
What Are Withdrawal Symptoms?
Doctors classify withdrawal symptoms into three categories: mild, moderate, and severe.
  • Mild or minor alcohol withdrawal usually occurs within 24 hours of the last drink and is characterized by tremulousness (shakes), insomnia, anxiety, panic, twitching, sweating, raised blood pressure and pulse, and stomach upset.
  • Moderate or intermediate alcohol withdrawal usually occurs 24-36 hours after the cessation of alcohol intake. Its manifestations include intense anxiety, tremors, insomnia, seizures, hallucinations, high blood pressure, racing pulse.
  • Severe or major alcohol withdrawal aka Delirium Tremens (D.T.s). This usually occurs more than 48 hours after a cessation or decrease in alcohol consumption. It is characterized by disorientation, agitation, hallucinations, tremulousness, racing heart, rapid breathing, fever, irregular heartbeat, blood pressure spikes, and intense sweating. When untreated about one person in five will die of D.T.s. Some people refer to shakes as D.T.s but this is inaccurate.
Even mild or moderate withdrawal can be dangerous for people with high blood pressure or bad hearts. Because withdrawal raises blood pressure there can be a danger of heart attack or stroke.
The longer and harder a person has drunk alcohol--the more severe the withdrawal will be.

Can people successfully use alcohol to taper off?
An unqualified YES. People have been using alcohol to taper off from alcohol since the dawn of history. Withdrawal medications are a recent invention. The idea that tapering cannot be done is a myth created by the alcohol treatment industry.
How do I know if I need to taper off?
If when you stop drinking your hands are visibly shaky, you begin to sweat a lot, you have a rapid or irregular pulse, or your blood pressure is very high then it is advisable to taper off alcohol and not quit cold turkey. You can taper off by using alcohol or by getting prescription meds from your doctor. A pulse of over 100 beats per minute is a definite danger sign.
How do I use alcohol to taper off?
Beer is the best form of alcohol to use when tapering off. If you attempt to taper off using wine or hard liquor you might just wind up getting drunk again because these have higher alcohol content than beer. Try to limit yourself to drinking no more alcohol than necessary when you start tapering. Drink just enough to keep the sweats and shakes at bay. Gradually reduce the consumption of beer as you continue to taper. If the withdrawal is not too extreme you should be tapered off in a day or so. Some people may, however take longer--three days or even a week. If you start to feel withdrawal that is a sign that your taper is not done yet.
It is also very important when tapering off to fight dehydration and to replenish lost vitamins. If you go through a medical detox the people they may rehydrate you with an IV and may also give you vitamin shots. If you are doing a self detox be sure to drink lots and lots of fluids and to take vitamin pills. We recommend Gatorade because it has balanced electrolytes. If you choose to drink water make sure that you get enough salt for electrolyte balance so that you avoid water intoxication.

How much alcohol should I drink when tapering off?
The average person takes around an hour and a half to metabolize a single standard drink--for example one 12 oz beer. People who have a very high tolerance to alcohol can metabolize up to two standard drinks (28 g of alcohol) per hour. People who have a very low tolerance to alcohol might require two or three hours to metabolize a standard drink. Males metabolize alcohol faster than females. The more you weigh the higher your tolerance. Heavy drinkers who have increased tolerance also metabolize alcohol more rapidly than average. On the other hand people who have liver damage and reverse tolerance metabolize alcohol more slowly than others.
Setting Up A Taper Schedule
It is very important that you set up a TAPER SCHEDULE which corresponds to the amount you have been drinking and the amount of withdrawal you might have as a result. The first step in setting up a taper schedule is to estimate your daily baseline consumption of alcohol.
It is very important that you estimate your BASELINE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION in terms of standard drinks in order for you to be able to set up a taper schedule. You can find the definition of a standard drink here. Just for reference a 12 ounce regular strength (5%) beer is one standard drink. A standard (750 ml) bottle of wine at 12% alcohol contains 5 standard drinks. A 750 ml bottle of 80 proof booze contains 17 standard drinks. A liter of 80 proof booze is 23 standard drinks.

If you have been drinking 20 or more standard drinks a day then we recommend that on the first day of your taper you drink one beer per hour starting when you wake up in the morning for a total of 16 beers the first day. On the second day drink one beer every hour and a half for a total of ten beers. Then continue to taper down by reducing the amounts by two beers per day until you are down to zero.

If your BASELINE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION is less than 20 drinks per day then we recommend reducing consumption by two standard drinks per day. For example, if you have been drinking an average of 12 drinks per day then your taper schedule can be 10 beers the first day, 8 the second, 6 the third, 4 the fourth, 2 the fifth and 0 the sixth day. Likewise if your average consumption is 6 standard drinks per day you can set a taper schedule of 4, 2, 0.

Some people choose to taper more quickly by cutting the amounts in half--for example 20, 10 5, 2, 0. But if you start having major withdrawal symptoms like bad shakes or pulse over 100 or high blood pressure you are tapering too fast and should slow it down. Monitoring you pulse and blood pressure can be a very good idea while you are tapering especially if you have high blood pressure. If your pulse exceeds 100, your blood pressure goes very high, or you have irregular heart beat then this means that you are tapering too fast and you need more beer.

Only people who are tapering down from very large quantities of alcohol such as a liter of vodka per day will need to start drinking in the morning in order to taper. If you are tapering from smaller quantities and feel no withdrawal symptoms until afternoon or evening then you can wait until then to consume your taper beers. Remember that you are not drinking for pleasure--you are drinking medicine--so only drink what is needed.

Can you stop cold turkey? Many people who have been drinking smaller amounts or for shorter periods may find that they suffer no withdrawal symptoms or only minor withdrawal symptoms and that quitting cold turkey is far easier than tapering.

Always remember that if the taper is not working for you or if you are having major withdrawal that it is safest to check into a medical detox because alcohol withdrawal can kill you.

Can You Taper Too Slowly?
As long as you are progressively reducing the amount you are drinking you are tapering successfully, no matter how long it takes. However, some people find that if they attempt to taper too slowly they wind up rebounding back to baseline levels before they ever reach zero. If you are one of these people then you may want to try to speed your taper as much as you can within the bounds of safety. Many people find that they can finish their taper in two or three days
 

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Who in here drinking alone by themselves tho? Thats me 90% of the time

I think we’re conditioned to see drinking alone as a bad thing . I mean, it’s the not the greatest thing to do but I love to browse YouTube, The Coli, or playing PS4 while having a few cold ones all by my lonesome; not bothering anyone. But I only drink beer by myself, I don’t really touch the hard stuff. No judgement though.

:yeshrug:
 

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I’m here telling ppl I drink altleast a six pack a day and damn near admitting I’m an alcoholic, why would I lie about that?

Sat and Sun afternoon always. That’s two days at leisure.

Then just three more days during the week. I work from home so it’s convinient.


I have no reason to lie in this thread Breh.


Wow. Working from home is a gif and a curse.

I thought I was bad by having one drink a day.
 

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There were times when I considered myself an alcoholic (albeit a high-functioning one). I identify with a lot of things I've read in this thread. I started drinking in college, and got hooked. What started out as drinking to have fun turned into drinking to cope. Stress and depression were drowned in the bottle. I still drink, but not nearly as much. I can't say that I will never go back, because I don't know what the future holds. I will say that I know my limits, and mostly did so even when I was drinking 6 days out the week. I'm currently limiting it to the weekends, and recently, it's been just Saturdays. There's a liquor store in walking distance from my crib, and I'm tempted every day. My job has been really shytty lately, and the stress makes me wanna drink, but I've been good about not doing it.

One of the major factors (and this will sound corny) is my girl. She provides me that peace and comfort after a hard day. When I was with my ex, I felt like I was alone in the relationship, so I excessively drank like she wasn't even there. A few times, she would come home and find me passed out on the floor. When she broke up with me, I downward spiraled even worse. It took me about 2 years, but I came to terms with that breakup, and started focusing on my health and well-being. I went over a month without touching alcohol. After that, I started to have a healthier relationship with alcohol, and I wasn't as depressed. Then, I met my current girl. She drinks, too, but she's supportive of whatever I want to do.


Some of the worst things that happened to me with alcohol were:

  • Got caught drunk driving, but I had a cool Black cop who saved my ass. He just wrote it up as a ticket ($300, but beats going to jail), and asked me if I knew anyone close-by I could stay with. He got another breh cop to drive me to my homie's house around the corner. I know the universe is looking out for me.
  • Threw up all over a hotel room, and woke up discovering that I had also shytted myself.
  • I was an hour late to work one time, because I was drinking vodka the night before (one of many reasons I usually don't fw vodka).


Luckily, I didn't experience much worse, because of alcohol. I am very lucky in that regard. Some people have lost everything, and I was wildin to the point of possibly having to deal with that.
 

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Salute to everyone in this thread dealing with this bad bad habit. When the alcohol calls you and you HAVE to answer that's when you know there is a problem.
 

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I was going through 12 16oz cans every 3-4 days for a few weeks. Then I switch it up with Whiskey for a few weeks. That's been going on for a year or two. Whats also bad is during the day I wouldn't even drink water, when i get home I resume. Last year for about a month I cut it down to just a beer a day but I don't remember what happened but I felt so good when I was off of it.

Right now I haven't had a drink since Sunday. Think I'm going to slow it down
 

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Trying to stop eventually tho. Funny thing is, I didn't even drink at all during college aside from the occasional beer. When I started working crazy hours I would use for the stress and anxiety. I do good for a while since I started taking lifting (and being active) seriously and just feeling lethargic all the time and justifying it to just binge watch tv by myself.
 

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Haven't had a drink since Sunday night last week.

I don't even have the thirst for it either.

Life is just as enjoyable sober. Also, I don't need it to "take the edge off". I got the gym for that.
 

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I've tapered down to a pint of Stoli a day. Next week a half-pint a day. The week after I'm hoping to get down to only Fridays and Saturdays. The struggle is real tho brehs :why:
 
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