Anybody else prefer Drake's music before he got a ghostwriter?

[ISO]

Samuels, Adam Feeney and R. Thomas III are all credited as writers on 10 Bandz, besides Q. Miller and Drake. If Q. Miller did the flow, hook and the first verse, why are you so confident in saying that Drake did everything else? What did those other 3 writers do?

Samuels is Boi-1-Da, Feeney is Frank Dukes and Thomas III is Sevn Thomas. They are producers, producers get credit as do sampled artists and are usually listed under the writer/writers.

 

[Izanami]

People acting like the weekend wrote bars for drake, when in reality it was strickly his rnb joints like practice,shot for me, good girls go etc. he credited on tracks he ain't appear on.

 

[Nobodyknows]

How if Drake added a second verse, a third verse which is by far the longest on the song and an outro? He slightly modified the hook and took the first verse removing a few lines.


No he didn't

Nickle F already said he never wrote for Drake and he's nowhere to be found on the tracklist for SFG EP.

QM also said he didn't write for Drake too

 

[ISO]

producers, and the sample also get writers credits. but exactly, you can guess that q.miller did the 2nd and 3rd verse too since the first verse and the hook is very similar. maybe that reference track was only the first take. if he can assume that drake wrote the rest then other people can assume that q.miller did the rest too.

First take?

That is THE reference tape, the person who leaked it would send the most incriminating shyt possible.

 

[King Kreole]

Samuels is Boi-1-Da, Feeney is Frank Dukes and Thomas III is Sevn Thomas. They are producers, producers get credit as do sampled artists and are usually listed under the writer/writers.

But not everyone in his writing credits are strictly producers, most of them are songwriters as well. Look at the situation with Started From The Bottom with Mike Zombie.

The issue isn't crediting writers, it's that your credited writers are doing way more than they're assumed to be doing. Before the reference tracks leaked, no one would never have thought that someone else was doing the hook, verse and flow. We thought that it was a line here or there. Because Drake was so comfortable letting someone else handle so much of the work on one track throws his whole discography into question. I don't believe Drake has never written anything, but looking at his credits and seeing so many names has to make us wonder how much of Drake's work is actually coming from him.

 

[wingstop]

First take?

That is THE reference tape, the person who leaked it would send the most incriminating shyt possible.

you aint got proof of that . maybe that hasnt leaked yet

 

[wingstop]

But not everyone in his writing credits are strictly producers, most of them are songwriters as well. Look at the situation with Started From The Bottom with Mike Zombie.

The issue isn't crediting writers, it's that your credited writers are doing way more than they're assumed to be doing. Before the reference tracks leaked, no one would never have thought that someone else was doing the hook, verse and flow. We thought that it was a line here or there. Because Drake was so comfortable letting someone else handle so much of the work on one track throws his whole discography into question. I don't believe Drake has never written anything, but looking at his credits and seeing so many names has to make us wonder how much of Drake's work is actually coming from him.

mike zombie definitely had a huge role in writing started from the bottom.

 

[Soundbwoy]

tbh it kinda explain why I didnt like the last 2 project except for a couple of songs but then again I never saw drake as lyricist I just enjoyed his music for what it was

 

[Frida Giezman]

How if Drake added a second verse, a third verse which is by far the longest on the song and an outro? He slightly modified the hook and took the first verse removing a few lines.


No he didn't

Nickle F already said he never wrote for Drake and he's nowhere to be found on the tracklist for SFG EP.

I mean to be honest I only heard 10 bandz a handful of times

but based on what I heard in the reference track sounds like q miller created the song with the hook and verse and Drake just probably had to paint by numbers at that point

 

[Frida Giezman]

nah, ghostwriters are never credited. you wanna say drake doesnt write all of his own shyt/come up with his own ideas then fine, but a ghostwriter is called a GHOSTwriter for a reason.

lol what's the difference though?

this is just a semantics argument

Drake fans act like Drake giving dude writing credit makes all of this ok which is pretty hilarious and let's me know that yall are completely missing the point

 

[The God Poster]

Also before all of this a lot of Drake haters were saying Drake wasn't that lyrical his shyt wasn't hot.

Nikkas find out about QM and then Drake haters are praising QM's lyricism talking about he was giving Drake fire.

So when Drake spit those bars it was weak but once you heard QM lazy flow it over a poorly mixed reference tape it was hot?


IYRITITL is Drake's worst lyrical product by far QM is not even that nasty with it.

Write lyrical masterpieces only to hire someone less lyrical to write for you brehs.


If we were to up the album thread yall nikkas would be talking bout the shyt was lyrically great. Now you found out drake ain't write it its "well it wasn't great to begin with"

And show me posters who said 10 bands was garbage lyrically when drake spit it but switched up when they found out QM did. I'll wait

Yall stans been coming out yall ass. Still waiting on @Napoleon to drop that Jay reference track.

And yall ho nikkas be dodging posts

 

[ISO]

Write lyrical masterpieces only to hire someone less lyrical to write for you brehs.


If we were to up the album thread yall nikkas would be talking bout the shyt was lyrically great. Now you found out drake ain't write it its "well it wasn't great to begin with"

And show me posters who said 10 bands was garbage lyrically when drake spit it but switched up when they found out QM did. I'll wait

Yall stans been coming out yall ass. Still waiting on @Napoleon to drop that Jay reference track.

And yall ho nikkas be dodging posts

Ehhh no nikkas on here have said Drake couldn't spit time and time again and then praised QM...

Also never did I say IYRTITL was great lyrically

6PM in NY is the most lyrical song and other songs of the series like 9AM in Dallas and 5AM in Toronto shyt on it. It was a huge regress in skill just from NWTS hearing Tuscan Leather and Pound Cake.

 

[I love Latina women]

that muthafukka done always had ghostwriters since he's become "drake", the artist. this shyt ain't nothin' new

 

[The God Poster]

Ehhh no nikkas on here have said Drake couldn't spit time and time again and then praised QM...

Also never did I say IYRTITL was great lyrically

6PM in NY is the most lyrical song and other songs of the series like 9AM in Dallas and 5AM in Toronto shyt on it.

Breh u just stated nikkas said 10 bands was garbage lyrically &switched up when they heard QM spit it

Either back the shyt u say up with proof or

 

[MIAlien]

nah, ghostwriters are never credited. you wanna say drake doesnt write all of his own shyt/come up with his own ideas then fine, but a ghostwriter is called a GHOSTwriter for a reason.

That's semantics. The point is that we have proof that Drake hasn't written all of his own RAP lyrics and has taken credit for lyrics someone wrote for him. Giving someone a writing credit doesn't excuse that.

How if Drake added a second verse, a third verse which is by far the longest on the song and an outro? He slightly modified the hook and took the first verse removing a few lines.

You're trying to parse it like it matters who did how much, but it doesn't. Quentin Miller wrote bars that Drake rapped as if they were his own. No respectable MC uses THAT kind of "help" in the studio and gets to be one of the greats.

ANY evidence of another rapper writing your bars for you is a bad look, and puts your whole catalogue into question. Drake can write his own rhymes, no doubt, but all this contextual bullshyt doesn't matter. He's been lying to the public and the burden is on him now to explain it.