Cabbage Patch
The Media scene in V is for Vendetta is the clue
If you use that argument, you'll be told that you're mentally ill...
Anybody watching the special on Bruce Jenner
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King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Kobes Two Jerseys
8 or 24 best player of the era
My mom just sent me my baby picture.Be free, young cub
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Whether something is innate or chosen has no bearing on whether the opposition to the fact is based in ignorance, fear and hatred or not. People have been unjustly discriminated against for a wide variety of things, not all being innate. Even granting your unqualified assertion that transgenderism is a choice (going in the face of the vast majority of established scientific, academic and common sense thought on the matter), that does not invalidate their discrimination, or a comparison to other acts of unjust discrimination.
I'm not sure who the "they" you're referring to in your second sentence is, but I would rebuke anybody using another's suffering to alleviate their own without returning the favor. I see all acts of unjust oppression as stemming from the same mode of thinking. The acts themselves may manifest differently and have varying degrees of brutality or complexity, but that doesn't negate the effect on the individual victim. I'm not trying to get into a "which oppression is worse" type of debate here though. Unfortunately, the world is a large and cruel enough place to accommodate many forms of oppressions.
It saddens me that your experience with being oppressed has made you indifferent to another's. I should hope that in the future you reconsider your position.
Pinyapplesuckas
He's A Good Man
Cancer
I hope he dies
6 pages? Y people care about this faggit? This dude don't give a fukk about yall
it is a choice and something being choice or not does make a difference, but i'm not making this a competition...i'm just saying: dont lump what they going through with what blacks go through, cause there is a difference...
i explained who they were in the same sentence, but since you missed it, here you go: 'they' are the ones that only bring up the mistreatment of blacks when it benefits them and they try to garner support for their cause, but ignore it any other time.....hence me mentioning animal cruelty, homosexual rights, transgender rights, etc...cause when people fight for those rights, they are quick to mention black civil rights, but when their fight is over, they dont mention black civil rights anymore, until their next cause....
lol dont patronize me....just cause i said dont lump them in with blacks doesnt mean i'm indifferent about what they go through...you just gonna ignore the part where i said they dont deserve to be mistreated huh?...lol do you man...
...look, i get it...you wanna support them, be understanding, etc., that's cool...and i agree, they shouldnt be mistreated, but i'm just saying dont lump what they going through with what blacks go through, cause it's not the same....that's it....
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Well the point of a comparison is to find similarities between two things that are not the same. I have previously stated that the two causes are not the same. No two causes are the same. But the similarities between them should evoke an empathetic response.
It wasn't my intention to patronize you, I said you were indifferent because you yourself said "they make us stand on our own, so make them stand on their own....fukk them....". I'm glad you don't believe that they deserve to be mistreated, I really am, but my issue is that indifference often breeds oppression. "History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
I have a feeling we're more in agreement than not though. I perhaps should have made it clearer that I'm not trying to completely equate the oppression that a transgender person faces with the oppression that a black person faces. My point was that oppression in any form usually stems from the same mindset.
that's where we disagree: i dont think there is a comparison, you do....
yes, i did say fukk them....by that i meant the way they make us fight for ours by ourselves, we should treat them the same way...the way they not out there campaigning with us, dont be out there campaigning with them....that doesnt mean mistreat them, dont feel sympathy/empathy, none of that....
yes, we agree they shouldnt be mistreated; we disagree about comparing it to what blacks go through...it's cool...have a good one...
Can we all agree Jesse Owens is the GOAT american athlete now? Standing up to hitler >>>>> Being a transfakkit
SpringWater
Just Like That
OK. So, I was feeling bad about lacking compassion in this thread on this subject so I watched the full interview on HULU today and I have to say, Bruce has been struggling with this his entire life since he was aware of himself as a child and I get that now. I don't understand it fully still but the thing that sold me mostly was how he explained that his entire Olympian journey was a bid to essentially prove his own masculinity to himself and distract himself from his haunting thoughts of feeling female inside. That was DEEP yo. He said on the winners podium he was only thinking, 'ok, what will I do now'. DAMN. He also disclosed his struggle to all of his wives including his first, years before he competed in the Olympics. And even started the process with hormones during his second marriage and was on them when he met Kris Jenner. She knew about it all and still married him. Apparently, he is attracted to women but his soul also says he is also a woman. I still can't relate but I felt more compassion after watching the video than I felt before. I'm still working out how I understand the whole disorder or not thing...but, I do believe, after watching his interview, that he was born that way. That is all.
Red Shield
Global Domination
to Bruce, unfortunately it takes a lot of courage to do something like this
stop encouraging this shyt