Anyone else in here REFUSE to listen to hiphop music....

[Pinyapplesuckas]

I usually listen to Brotha Lynch Hung with my kids. Good wholesome, clean music

 

[King Jove]

this reminds me of schoolboy Q's snapchats.

he plays the most vulgar rap around his daughter in his car.

 

[Juneya]

No I do listen to underground and old school shyt, but this thread is alluding to the mainstream shyt that sends the wrong message.

bytches Aint shyt, Criminal, and Shook Ones 2 arent underground and arent exactly great songs to have young kids listening to, but that's up to u what u want ur kids to listen to, there's much worse shyt to worry about than the music they're listening to.

There are other rap songs than future and bytches aint shyt tho... You can pick the most dramatic examples of vulgar rap, but vulgarity isn't unique to rap.

And again its oral tradition. It was black men talking to black men. Black men telling stories to black youth they can relate too. In an environment they can see everyday and imagine. Teaching them game. Even in shook ones. I don't need a three year old watching porn and i also don't need a three year old listening to luke. But... That doesn't mean the 3 year old can't watch tv or listen to rap.

Stop acting like Gone with the Wind and Scarface didn't both happen.

 

[Lifer11]

There are other rap songs than future and bytches aint shyt tho... You can pick the most dramatic examples of vulgar rap, but vulgarity isn't unique to rap.

And again its oral tradition. It was black men talking to black men. Black men telling stories to black youth they can relate too. In an environment they can see everyday and imagine. Teaching them game. Even in shook ones. I don't need a three year old watching porn and i also don't need a three year old listening to luke. But... That doesn't mean the 3 year old can't watch tv or listen to rap.

Stop acting like Gone with the Wind and Scarface didn't both happen.

I picked the songs that were posted.

And I'm not acting like crazy movies didn't happen but there's also no reason for little kids to be watching Scarface or Goodfellas or any other classic movie that's dealing with drugs and violence. When they get to a certain age they can watch whatever they want but when they're too young to separate fact and fiction that shyt is just warping their mind and their values.

But some classic Pac a lot of that shyt can be straight up educational and spiritually/mentally rewarding. Same with Nas, Scarface, Andre 3000, Talib, Mos, and plenty more I'd have no problem letting my kids listen to. I'm not saying all rap, or any other artform, should be off limits, it's all about common sense and discretion.

 

[FappleMeOff]

I play whatever. My Dad used to play explicit rap music in the car all throughout my youth and I'm glad he did. Made me take a serious interest in rap music and the culture. He never played trash either

 

[Juneya]

I picked the songs that were posted.

And I'm not acting like crazy movies didn't happen but there's also no reason for little kids to be watching Scarface or Goodfellas or any other classic movie that's dealing with drugs and violence. When they get to a certain age they can watch whatever they want but when they're too young to separate fact and fiction that shyt is just warping their mind and their values.

How long you been studying what warps the minds and values of children?
Before they can separate fact from fiction, what are in lyrics don't matter. The children are suppose to like the music. The children are the main ingredient. And, the children don't have dads, which again brings back to the oral tradition. Its supposed to be this way. There is no reason to shame them of anything that is happening to black people. Some things are just extreme. But to point the finger at rap, past or present, as a whole and say that its inappropriate and consumed with violence and drugs is wrong.

But to shame the kids for liking music that is full of references to violence and drugs is wrong too. they like video games. They like movies. they like to hang around other kids and cousins.

To point the finger at rap and say that it is in appropriate and shouldn't be around children is just criminalize and marginalizing black men.

 

[Juneya]

What makes all the people that don't listen to rap as children turn to violence or drugs... Why would rap and rap music be making kids do drugs. It doesn't. That is nancy reagan talking. That is systematic black criminalization. That starts at you telling your kid that what happens in rap music is bad.

 

[Lifer11]

How long you been studying what warps the minds and values of children?
Before they can separate fact from fiction, what are in lyrics don't matter. The children are suppose to like the music. The children are the main ingredient. And, the children don't have dads, which again brings back to the oral tradition. Its supposed to be this way. There is no reason to shame them of anything that is happening to black people. Some things are just extreme. But to point the finger at rap, past or present, as a whole and say that its inappropriate and consumed with violence and drugs is wrong.

But to shame the kids for liking music that is full of references to violence and drugs is wrong too. they like video games. They like movies. they like to hang around other kids and cousins.

To point the finger at rap and say that it is in appropriate and shouldn't be around children is just criminalize and marginalizing black men.

No it's not, especially considering the main example I gave was early Eminem shyt.

And as for warping their minds I think it's common sense that anything that gets stuck in their head thats melodically repeating lyrics about drugs and violence can and most likely will have a negative effect. And you're making a lot of generalizations, not everyone listening to rap doesn't have a father, and the ones who don't are even more vulnerable to being unable to distinguish fantasy from reality.

I believe, as do many other people, that what's in lyrics matters greatly. The fact that kids memorize all their little kid songs and it has a positive effect on them, which is easy to see when the shyts all happy and they're dancing around with a big smile on their face, we can surmise that them memorizing negative shyt, especially with no one to teach them proper values, will have a negative effect on them and their outlook on the world.

Who said anything about shaming the kids? I never said anything about shaming kids, but kids under a certain age have nothing to gain from listening to a lot of the music out there or watching a lot of the TV and movies, from any genre. I wouldn't want my daughter watching a pop star they idolize dancing around half naked either. That's why these little ass girls are walking around half naked, the shyt they see on TV and on their IG and Twitter comes to be the norm so to then tell them they can't do what everyone else their age is doing only isolates them and makes them want to do it more.

If the kids aren't supposed to like the music then why have them listen to it? Am I supposed to believe there's value in a 6 or 7 year old listening to Young Thug or Future? Like I said there's plenty of rap out there that I think does have value, but there's plenty of shyt that doesn't too, that's all I'm saying, that's not shaming anyone or criminalizing anyone, unless they're criminalizing themselves and talking about selling drugs and killing people and doing it gratuitously with no underlying message or theme, then I think it's completely fair to approach that music in that way cause that's the desired effect they're going for.

E.g. when someone like Meek is talking about all the coke him and his boys sold/sell and that they're willing to kill people, he's trying to present himself as a criminal so I'm not criminalizing him, he's doing it to himself. To me, a young child has nothing to gain from listening to shyt like that, or watching a movie that deals with similar themes. When they're old enough they can listen to or watch shyt like that solely for entertainment, but up until a certain age I can't envision anything but bad coming from it.

 

[Grizzly]

Strictly jersey club, house and reggae when im with my little cousins

they love it tho so while they enjoy themselves I get to school them on different genres outside of rap music

 

[Maschine_Man]

to name everything but rap music is being ashamed, and its upsetting.
every genre you named occurred before the criminalization of black men.
Rap music is aggressive because Black men are handled as criminals and taught they are the "shame" of the nation since birth. Every person. Black and white, walk around criminalizing and shaming black men. Even to children.

And you telling your child that its okay to criminalize and marginalize black male art and business is just the latest example of the attack that occurred on black men since the 80s. Its exactly the reason rap music is the way it is. Cause everyone, including you and gene simmons, thinks that all black men are thugs. and all their activity is gangster/criminal.

Your problem is you are thinking that hiphop= black culture
It doesn't. And tbh, I am kind of ashamed by a lot of the nonsense and crap that is in a lot of rap music.
There is a lot of good and a lot of positivity, but it is far outweighed by the negativity.

I'd rather having my kids singin smokey Robinson than future. And NO ONE will ever say that SR is not black culture.

I'd also rather have my kids rapping "parents just don't understand" than whatever bs Nikki Mina's is putting out.

But This isn't about being ashamed of black culture, it's about the music not really having a positive impact for children.

It's also the same reason my kids won't be seeing pulp fiction or playing Gta. Kids are easily impressionable. And if I can help limit the amount of things that they just aren't mature enough to listen to than I will.

Shiiieet....I remember back in the day I had to be 18 before I could even by an ice cube album. fukking store wouldn't sell it to me.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

when in their cars with kids?

I can't do it bruhs. That shyt just don't seem right to me. To much nonsense, cursing and just overall dirt in those lyrics to subjecting them to children.

I mean there are a few songs that could pass, but on the regular I don't do it.


What kind of music do you dudes listen to when rolling with your kids? or nephews, nieces, kids you just kidnapped,etc?


I either let my daughter play her music...mostly pop radio type stuff that also plays some clean rap music.
or classic rock/funk/rnb type stuff.

on a side note: having your kids in the house singing those old classics does make me feel good though.

Lol I don't listen to trash so I can play my music around kids. Excessive cursing and trash ass content isn't my thing. A little foul language isn't a big deal

 

[Juneya]

Your problem is you are thinking that hiphop= black culture
It doesn't. And tbh, I am kind of ashamed by a lot of the nonsense and crap that is in a lot of rap music.
There is a lot of good and a lot of positivity, but it is far outweighed by the negativity.

I'd rather having my kids singin smokey Robinson than future. And NO ONE will ever say that SR is not black culture.

I'd also rather have my kids rapping "parents just don't understand" than whatever bs Nikki Mina's is putting out.

But This isn't about being ashamed of black culture, it's about the music not really having a positive impact for children.

It's also the same reason my kids won't be seeing pulp fiction or playing Gta. Kids are easily impressionable. And if I can help limit the amount of things that they just aren't mature enough to listen to than I will.

Shiiieet....I remember back in the day I had to be 18 before I could even by an ice cube album. fukking store wouldn't sell it to me.

Wow. The first sentence is mind blowing.
Like i said before, both black and white people in america are taught to hate and be ashamed of black men. Your post is yet another example of that.

It is VERY MUCH about you being ashamed of your culture. period. Nikki makes amazing music. Positive music that little white girls go on tv and sing. She also curses and uses vulgarity. Like your momma. who fukked and used her p*ssy to make you.

Your problem is... You hate black people. You think that because white people put it out in the media that our music is worse than their devil worshipping and bat eating music. You think that black people are more violent. You probably lock your door when black men under 25 walk down the street.

Your problem is you see a difference between smokey robison and future. Which is just self hate.

You not buying cds before 18 is exactly what I mean. They created that rule to criminalize black culture. How the fukk is rap music not black culture. Just because your ashamed of it. fukk outta here. c00n ass nikka. shyt almost pissed me off. Rap is not black culture. RAP IS THE BLACKEST THING IN AMERICA FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS

 

[Juneya]

No it's not, especially considering the main example I gave was early Eminem shyt.

And as for warping their minds I think it's common sense that anything that gets stuck in their head thats melodically repeating lyrics about drugs and violence can and most likely will have a negative effect. And you're making a lot of generalizations, not everyone listening to rap doesn't have a father, and the ones who don't are even more vulnerable to being unable to distinguish fantasy from reality.

I believe, as do many other people, that what's in lyrics matters greatly. The fact that kids memorize all their little kid songs and it has a positive effect on them, which is easy to see when the shyts all happy and they're dancing around with a big smile on their face, we can surmise that them memorizing negative shyt, especially with no one to teach them proper values, will have a negative effect on them and their outlook on the world.

Who said anything about shaming the kids? I never said anything about shaming kids, but kids under a certain age have nothing to gain from listening to a lot of the music out there or watching a lot of the TV and movies, from any genre. I wouldn't want my daughter watching a pop star they idolize dancing around half naked either. That's why these little ass girls are walking around half naked, the shyt they see on TV and on their IG and Twitter comes to be the norm so to then tell them they can't do what everyone else their age is doing only isolates them and makes them want to do it more.

If the kids aren't supposed to like the music then why have them listen to it? Am I supposed to believe there's value in a 6 or 7 year old listening to Young Thug or Future? Like I said there's plenty of rap out there that I think does have value, but there's plenty of shyt that doesn't too, that's all I'm saying, that's not shaming anyone or criminalizing anyone, unless they're criminalizing themselves and talking about selling drugs and killing people and doing it gratuitously with no underlying message or theme, then I think it's completely fair to approach that music in that way cause that's the desired effect they're going for.

E.g. when someone like Meek is talking about all the coke him and his boys sold/sell and that they're willing to kill people, he's trying to present himself as a criminal so I'm not criminalizing him, he's doing it to himself. To me, a young child has nothing to gain from listening to shyt like that, or watching a movie that deals with similar themes. When they're old enough they can listen to or watch shyt like that solely for entertainment, but up until a certain age I can't envision anything but bad coming from it.

I will respond paragraph by paragraph.

Its being common sense is not fact. That is your personal opinion, based on nothing. Personal experience and watching the Black men around me, Both obviously something you don't have, have showed me that rap music is not any more mind warping than any other form of media. The fact that this post, and you, continue to point fingers at rap music as a whole having a negative affect and not being appropriate for children is bullshyt. Its self hate.

Happy songs make kinds happy and dance around. When has playing rap song done anything different? Have you not seen the vine and youtube videos of kids having amazing times listening to african drum patterns and lyrics

Lyrics? First off. Rap music is Language Arts. Especially trap rap. Even if a kid could make out the lyrics, the entendres, and metaphors in rap. How the fukk does the kid even know what is going on? What child prodigy you have that is breaking down the lyrics and rhymes of artist and analyzing them while they are dancing to nae nae and hit the quan? Once again. You are speaking out of no facts, just self hate.

There is definitely value in a 7 year old listening to thug and future. They are melodically genius and make fun music. Does your 7 year old have the right to go and download every future tape and buy every album. No. Does your 7 year old have the right to turn to the porn channels on your cable no. The only reason to point out those two urban and poor black males is the criminalization of them that you have been programed to have in your mind. Is every single de niro film banned from your house. Or can he watch anger management and just not be allowed to watch goodfellas. again. its all self hate, your ashamed of black men.

Poor black men talk about poor black men shyt. period. You wouldn't understand if you never been neither and that is why you hate on rap music and black men as a whole.

"E.g. when someone like Meek is talking about all the coke him and his boys sold/sell and that they're willing to kill people, he's trying to present himself as a criminal so I'm not criminalizing him, he's doing it to himself. To me, a young child has nothing to gain from listening to shyt like that, or watching a movie that deals with similar themes. When they're old enough they can listen to or watch shyt like that solely for entertainment, but up until a certain age I can't envision anything but bad coming from it"

"You sound like a cracka. Or a nikka that think he a cracka."

Meek music and metaphors are a result of criminalization. As is rap music and all its aggression. Meek rapping about his culture and glorifying criminal elements is his music is the product, not the cause. SMH. Which is why it is nothing to be ashamed of. You criminalize meek if when you play a meek mill song that is all you hear. if when you play black music and hear negative, and don't see the genius emerging from impossible situations.... your no better than gene simmons. Meek mill is incredibly gifted with words. So if all you heard was his criminal lines, and didn't notice the language arts in them, your again criminalizing and marginalizing black men.

Cause i don't know if you notice this. But black men have been going to jail faster than they were becoming slaves in the 1700s. Everything a black man does is criminalized and hated by blacks and whites, and even nikkas on a "hip hop site." There is no not being a criminal for almost ALL of black men in america. Its literally unavoidable.

He can only speak on what he knows. And literally that is what some of them know. yet they still make changes in an environment an country that looks at them spreading culture, teaching the youth, and providing for families... AS CRIMINAL. Its nothing to be ashamed of, most of its for fun and to show bravado. its culture. of black men. That if your not one you would have a hard time properly interpreting.

 

[Juneya]

My daughter is 8, son is 2...nothing but pop music or R&B. Y'all niccas can call me a C00n all day but I'd rather my kids listen to corny ass Taylor Swift, Bruno Mars and Fallout Boy than hear the bullshyt on local hip hop stations.

Definitely a c00n bruh

 

[Metal Face]

I usually just bump the clean version in that scenario even with elders too lol