Anyone not smoke or drink?

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No shots at you, I just want to clarify since it is a pet peeve of mine when I hear it -- Straight edge is a specifically defined, committed lifestyle of no drugs and no smoking, and is also a subculture in and of itself (with roots in punk and DIY); one is either sxe or isn't. Lots of people say stuff like the bold because the term is misunderstood I guess. :yeshrug:
Gotcha. If it were up to me id probably be sxe, but when I'm out socially, once in a while I'll indulge in some vices(drinking ) to not be the odd man out, but I don't have an urge to drink and was never big on smoking, but I indulged in both during hs and college. The same argument can be made for sweets, soda, and candy with me. I don't buy them,but if they're around, I'll try some....
 

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No shots at you, I just want to clarify since it is a pet peeve of mine when I hear it -- Straight edge is a specifically defined, committed lifestyle of no drugs and no smoking, and is also a subculture in and of itself (with roots in punk and DIY); one is either sxe or isn't. Lots of people say stuff like the bold because the term is misunderstood I guess. :yeshrug:
When I was in high school my friend used an electric toothbrush and guitar string to give me a "Drug Free" tattoo on my ankles. Still the most painful one I got.....and like most people who find it necessary to get an edge tattoo I broke a few years later:francis:
 

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Angsty kids do dumb shyt. Did you go to punk or hardcore shows growing up?

Not really, as you can imagine that scene is not that big in the hood :pachaha: I was into punk for a bit growing up though, then I started relating way more to hip-hop as I became a teenager and stopped listening to punk (except for some of the stuff I already liked, like Anti-Flag was one of my favorite groups)
 

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Not really, as you can imagine that scene is not that big in the hood :pachaha: I was into punk for a bit growing up though, then I started relating way more to hip-hop as I became a teenager and stopped listening to punk (except for some of the stuff I already liked, like Anti-Flag was one of my favorite groups)
ol don't want to be an american idiot ass nikka
 

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Not really, as you can imagine that scene is not that big in the hood :pachaha: I was into punk for a bit growing up though, then I started relating way more to hip-hop as I became a teenager and stopped listening to punk (except for some of the stuff I already liked, like Anti-Flag was one of my favorite groups)
I played the shyt out of Anti-Flag's The Terror State. Most of that stuff doesn't age well, but is alright for nostalgia. You gotta go to a show so you can headwalk on a bunch of white people.

me @32 second mark :mjgrin: then watch me get my soul snatched off stage at 1:00 :mjcry:

 

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I mostly stopped drinking about the same time I found religion. It was never an addiction for me though so it wasn't hard, quitting was more about having new priorities in life than anything else.

Like others say, I think for someone who actually struggles with it, environment is key. The one time I fell back into it for a few quick weeks was when I had an internship out-of-town and it was all about peer pressure in a new environment.
 

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Yesterday was kind of a tough day for me guys...

Another person labeled me as an empath, basically I take on other people's emotions and so I got to explaining how I felt, and thought about it. Asked my gf a question and she said it was random then kinda blew me off until the night time.

Meanwhile I'm speaking to my barber about my addiction and he said the same thing, but hed gotten 4 duis, told me to pray about it.

So I headed out to the park and walked around, I was able to find peace in that, yet the sadness was still in me, the frustration and yearning, the paranoia, the hurt. I felt helpless in yesterday's battle.

Ended up running to,a few people at a bookstore, one woman helped a lot and so did a guy, the woman told me these issues could be bc I'm native and that I need to take WHEAT out of my diet immediately, it's what's causing the drinking and depression. I sat there for 30 minutes talking to her. Almost cried once, ended up getting a book.

This morning is a little better, I feel groggy and feel like I gotta speak to my SO so that she understands I'm kinda vulnerable, but at the same time I kinda just wanna keep my distance and,not communicate. The paranoia and emotional attachment has kinda been a lot for me. And it's kinda hard to have someone in your corner halfway.

When I'm on lunch I'll drop notes on the books and stuff that Darcy(bookstore lady) gave me
 

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Yesterday was kind of a tough day for me guys...

Another person labeled me as an empath, basically I take on other people's emotions and so I got to explaining how I felt, and thought about it. Asked my gf a question and she said it was random then kinda blew me off until the night time.

Meanwhile I'm speaking to my barber about my addiction and he said the same thing, but hed gotten 4 duis, told me to pray about it.

So I headed out to the park and walked around, I was able to find peace in that, yet the sadness was still in me, the frustration and yearning, the paranoia, the hurt. I felt helpless in yesterday's battle.

Ended up running to,a few people at a bookstore, one woman helped a lot and so did a guy, the woman told me these issues could be bc I'm native and that I need to take WHEAT out of my diet immediately, it's what's causing the drinking and depression. I sat there for 30 minutes talking to her. Almost cried once, ended up getting a book.

This morning is a little better, I feel groggy and feel like I gotta speak to my SO so that she understands I'm kinda vulnerable, but at the same time I kinda just wanna keep my distance and,not communicate. The paranoia and emotional attachment has kinda been a lot for me. And it's kinda hard to have someone in your corner halfway.

When I'm on lunch I'll drop notes on the books and stuff that Darcy(bookstore lady) gave me

Have you tried counseling? Look into Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Sounds like you need to talk to someone to work through your emotions and redirect your thought processes. Beyond changing your environment, which will immediately make things easier if you're engaging in alcohol/drug consumption mainly around others, that's probably the long term solution, if not antidepressants.

Go to the library or pick up a used copy of "Mind Over Mood".

Don't buy into bullshyt like wheat consumption is causing your drinking and depression.

:hhh:

Your depression is being fueled by your drinking. It took me a long time to realize what people meant by alcohol is a depressant.

At the end of the day, if you're not physically, but mentally addicted to alcohol/drugs, you can stop through sheer willpower or with the help of a professional by changing your environment and improving your moods that lead to addictive behaviors by redirecting your thoughts.
 

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Seek the consultation of a professional, not someone advising you to cut "wheat". That's comically misguided, and just laughable advice, even if her "heart was in the right place". Untreated, or improperly treated drug/alcohol addiction will be very rough on you. You can look into an outpatient program, first have a session with an addiction specialist, who can diagnose you. Or just get a reference from your primary care giver. Always consult with professionals about things you are able to.
 

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Have you tried counseling? Look into Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Sounds like you need to talk to someone to work through your emotions and redirect your thought processes. Beyond changing your environment, which will immediately make things easier if you're engaging in alcohol/drug consumption mainly around others, that's probably the long term solution, if not antidepressants.

Go to the library or pick up a used copy of "Mind Over Mood".

Don't buy into bullshyt like wheat consumption is causing your drinking and depression.

:hhh:

Your depression is being fueled by your drinking. It took me a long time to realize what people meant by alcohol is a depressant.

At the end of the day, if you're not physically, but mentally addicted to alcohol/drugs, you can stop through sheer willpower or with the help of a professional by changing your environment and improving your moods that lead to addictive behaviors by redirecting your thoughts.
Therapy is going to cost too much money I think. I'm usually able to just talk it out with random people. Umm.. I'll check it out but I've got another book I'll have to read first. And naw I think she has a point tbh, the wheat causes inflammation among other things and beer is made of wheat as well.

I hardly drink. Im not an alcoholic but if I drink I cant stop and this strong sense of depression

But you're right about the willpower and removing yourself from certain situations. Its the best thing that I could do.
 

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I won't press you, but from someone who has been through it, including 18 months in a halfway house, where I worked as a manager and intake, you have a very rough time ahead of you, and if you truly are an alcoholic, you will not find peace or sobriety. Or, more accurately all the odds would be against you. People who do go to rehab, addiction therapy, have like maybe a 10-20 chance of staying sober, people who don't, have less.

Also, you can find professional or therapists for less money then you may think. Because talking to random people.....man, I mean, they aren't qualified to diagnose or treat anyone or anything. What is their background? Always get counsel from a professional. If you had a serious criminal case, would you counsel with the best criminal defense lawyer in his field? Even if it's just a free 30 min session, or talk to a person on the street about a federal drug trafficking charge? What the fukk would they know?

I'll say this, people who don't have problems with alcohol/alcoholic would never talk about "not being able to stop drinking". It would simply never occur to them, because it doesn't happen.
 
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