Anyone watching the Ken Burns documentary on Vietnam?

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What he did while LBJ was trying to negotiate peace is criminally disgusting. Dude basically was trying to prolong the war for political points. :hhh: Guy was an opportunistic scumbag to the infinite degree. Also while I thought the whole shyt was a pointless exercise from the get go just like all the presidents thought as revealed in the pentagon papers, the way he did South Vietnam has a sense of dishonor to it. Just letting it fall to the communist should have been the goal but can't shake the feeling the whole way it played out was some snake shyt.

Its so easy to say he reminds me of Trump...but he reminds me of Trump. Just more intelligent.

Haven't gotten to the Nixon part of the doc but Lyndon Johnson was a piece of shyt himself in this doc. Dude kept lying to the American people about the progress in the war, kept prologning it, and intimidated media members for covering facts about what was really going on. Acted pretty Nixonian himself.
 

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Haven't gotten to the Nixon part of the doc but Lyndon Johnson was a piece of shyt himself in this doc. Dude kept lying to the American people about the progress in the war, kept prologning it, and intimidated media members for covering facts about what was really going on. Acted pretty Nixonian himself.
yeah they are all pieces of shyt for letting this go on as long as it did. Kennedy knew the shyt was pointless.

Bought the Blu-ray :blessed:. I finished it on Thursday. Wish it didn't end. :mjcry:
 

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Cant believe how naive some if these guys were. Mogi crocker being the worst of it so far.

Very entertaining stuff so far. Major Charlie saying he wished he had 200 vietcong fighters :wow:


Fyi, you could download all them from the pbs website

This basically proved we were winning the war, not the image
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This basically proved we were winning the war, not the image
I'm assuming you're referring to nixons operation linebacker.

The South Vietnamese government wouldn't have survived without being propped up indefinitely by the US and there will be an insurgency for the foreseeable future by Vietcong. Le duan was a true believer and zealot and this shyt would have been prolonged and for what end for Americans?

Besides the communists took over and over time started adopting more capatalist tendencies anyways ala China. Also the goal to stop the "spread of communism" was faulty when the communists didn't spread after South Vietnam fell.
 

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I'm assuming you're referring to nixons operation linebacker.

The South Vietnamese government wouldn't have survived without being propped up indefinitely by the US and there will be an insurgency for the foreseeable future by Vietcong. Le duan was a true believer and zealot and this shyt would have been prolonged and for what end for Americans?

Besides the communists took over and over time started adopting more capatalist tendencies anyways ala China. Also the goal to stop the "spread of communism" was faulty when the communists didn't spread after South Vietnam fell.
Yall mad?

The Tet offensive failed.
 

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Yall mad?

The Tet offensive failed.
:mjlol: You're talking about the tet offensive?!

Nah nikka. If that was your criteria then you deserved to get dragged.

The Tet offensive was a failure but the Easter offensive was more devastating for the south and occurred after Tet. Tet showed the weakness of the north militarily but they still had plenty of will that the south and Americans couldn't match
 

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:mjlol: You're talking about the tet offensive?!

Nah nikka. If that was your criteria then you deserved to get dragged.

The Tet offensive was a failure but the Easter offensive was more devastating for the south and occurred after Tet. Tet showed the weakness of the north militarily but they still had plenty of will that the south and Americans couldn't match
Had the USA enforced the Paris Accords :snoop:

The USA p*ssy-footed with Vietnam and let reporters shape the narrative. Its no wonder why US media is always pro-military since then. The government was not about to let another Vietnam shape public opinion.



but yes, ultimately I agree...China was more important than Vietnam...and the USA cut weight.

shyt's foul.
 
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