AOC juelzing when asked why she voted for the iron dome to Israel

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she didn't get bullied. she just folded, like others before her. if she was a fat ugly bytch ya'll wouldn't be trying to make her out to be some kinda hero, which she isn't.

she could've stood on her square and made her point that way but she didn't because she didn't wanna deal with the repercussions. no different than most who swallow their pride and convictions and eat shyt, be it in congress or the workplace or wherever.

Yeah, let's talk about that.....the repercussions because no one in this thread is talking about that. What are the repercussions of standing against your party on a vote? It's really interesting how no one is really talking about that in this thread. There are serious consequences for going against your party on certain votes, we have examples. It never ends well. And you have to weigh the consequences of standing your ground on every single issue to say you did or living to another term to actually represent people. But yeah, let's keep our focus on the symptoms and not the cause of the problem.
 

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Didn't make a difference. The vote was performative no matter how you slice it. You red pill nikkas need help.

It does matter in the grand scheme of things as the optics look like she caved and couldn't stand on her original convictions. The optics of her crying about it only made the look worse.
 
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It still makes you look weak like you weren't bold enough to vote or no on the matter. You essentially stayed neutral to play it safe and not ruffle any feathers. If she actually wanted to vote no on the bill, then she should have stood by her convictions instead of caving in when Nancy started yelling at her.
She did vote “no” on it.
 

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She did vote “no” on it.

She voted "present" after originally voting a proper no on the matter.

Stop caping and making excuses for her. She's an adult that can fight her own battles without people doing it for her. It's not the first time that she hasn't stuck to her stances publicly or else I would cut her some slack.
 

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That’s the way she wants it though. She wants to be front and center. Can’t have the attention when it benefits you but not be expected to be held accountable when it doesn’t.

Nor can you be out here crying and throwing temper tantrums about it where everyone can see it as well.

Sure she can. She's a woman.


Sounds wild as shyt, right? But tell me that's not what's happening. :francis:
 

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That’s exactly what’s going to happen. She’s the only one of those Progressives with no backbone or fire to stand up for herself and what she believes in. It’s only a matter of time before she breaks and falls in line.
She already did :stopitslime:
 
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She voted "present" after originally voting a proper no on the matter.

Stop caping and making excuses for her. She's an adult that can fight her own battles without people doing it for her. It's not the first time that she hasn't stuck to her stances publicly or else I would cut her some slack.
The leader of the party upbraided her in front of her peers, undoubtedly threatening her with the consequences of not changing her vote. Had she left it at “no,” there’s a chance she might have lost membership to committees on which she sits and has real opportunities to effect change. Yes, it would have been the right thing to do; but the “right” thing is not always the correct choice in matters of politics.

:yeshrug:
 

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Sure she can. She's a woman.


Sounds wild as shyt, right? But tell me that's not what's happening. :francis:

Politics is a different realm and animal as you're dealing with power players and foreign leaders that could care less that she's a woman and will walk all over her if they know they can do so. It's why I can respect Nancy even if I could care less about her.
 

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The leader of the party upbraided her in front of her peers, undoubtedly threatening her with the consequences of not changing her vote. Had she left it at “no,” there’s a chance she might have lost membership to committees on which she sits and has real opportunities to effect change. Yes, it would have been the right thing to do; but the “right” thing is not always the correct choice in matters of politics.

:yeshrug:

Which is exactly my point of why I say that you aren't going to get to where you want to go in politics playing nice. You have to get your hands dirty just like everyone else. If you won't do it, then someone else will.

AOC and those other members need to quit pretending like change is going to happen as it won't as long as money and big power players run Congress.
 

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Nicca I don't give a flying cuss what's happening in the middle east when white ppl have slaughtered us in this country for centuries. I didn't see them coming over here to rescue us or even calling America out for it during the height of slavery so I don't wanna hear it.

This country has supported the widespread legal lynching of us since slavery days and you sitting here crying to me about some damn Palestinians. Nicca please.
fukk outta here with this bullshyt about "caring about black people".

Does no one see the fukking irony in this clown talking about "Black people" and what we went through while
also cock swallowing the democratic establishment which has explicitly stated they could give two fukks
about fixing the economic destruction wrought on Black Americans ?

This post and everything about your post history literally contradict each other.
 

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Yeah, let's talk about that.....the repercussions because no one in this thread is talking about that. What are the repercussions of standing against your party on a vote? It's really interesting how no one is really talking about that in this thread. There are serious consequences for going against your party on certain votes, we have examples. It never ends well. And you have to weigh the consequences of standing your ground on every single issue to say you did or living to another term to actually represent people. But yeah, let's keep our focus on the symptoms and not the cause of the problem.
You left out the part where the entire party kisses Joe Manchin’s ass and makes all sorts of concessions to get him to go along.
 

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The leader of the party upbraided her in front of her peers, undoubtedly threatening her with the consequences of not changing her vote. Had she left it at “no,” there’s a chance she might have lost membership to committees on which she sits and has real opportunities to effect change. Yes, it would have been the right thing to do; but the “right” thing is not always the correct choice in matters of politics.

:yeshrug:
Yup. And her value to her causes can be expressed more clearly on committees than flexing on an Israel vote. Politics is a wicked game and she's learning on the fly that you can't do it alone.
 

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Yup. And her value to her causes can be expressed more clearly on committees than flexing on an Israel vote. Politics is a wicked game and she's learning on the fly that you can't do it alone.

It shouldn’t have taken her getting into politics to realize that when a lot of us couldn’t have told her that beforehand. A lot of people blindly come into politics with sincere intentions and realize real quick that you have to play the game to move up or someone else will.
 
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