Arabs really oppress their women

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I personally know some Saudi Arabian women who have studied abroad.

As for no fault based divorce - no fault divorce was one of the worst things to happen to marriage in the west. 80% of divorces are initiated by women for shallow reasons - Like “I think I could do better” “I deserve a richer man”, “I’m not happy” just look at the Kevin Samuels show And the hundreds of women who dial in. Divorces in Saudi are allowed for things like abuse.

Clearly allowing women to divorce for fickle reasons is part of the reason why marriage is ruined in the West - women are fickle by nature and change their mind easily.

I don’t see the issue with male guardianship of an adult woman either - you’re supposed to protect your female family members
 

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Let's flip it now. Pretend there is some Arab version of thecoli where there dumbfounded by the idea that women can marry a man and then divorce whenever she likes, take the children and half of his money and move on to the next man. Or wear tight leggings showing off her camel toe and figure? Or a multitude of other things.

Now ask yourself, which society has more order?

the society where people make their own choices without fear of physcial harm.
 

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I personally know some Saudi Arabian women who have studied abroad.

As for no fault based divorce - no fault divorce was one of the worst things to happen to marriage in the west. 80% of divorces are initiated by women for shallow reasons - Like “I think I could do better” “I deserve a richer man”, “I’m not happy” just look at the Kevin Samuels show And the hundreds of women who dial in. Divorces in Saudi are allowed for things like abuse.

Clearly allowing women to divorce for fickle reasons is part of the reason why marriage is ruined in the West - women are fickle by nature and change their mind easily.

I don’t see the issue with male guardianship of an adult woman either - you’re supposed to protect your female family members

I'm clearly not going to change your mind so I'm not going to go back and forth with you. What I will say is, no person is property and if someone doesn't want to be with a person anymore than they don't have too. People should have the freedoms to do what they want as long as they're not bringing harm to others. I'll live it at that and we can agree to disagree.
 

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I'm clearly not going to change your mind so I'm not going to go back and forth with you. What I will say is, no person is property and if someone doesn't want to be with a person anymore than they don't have too. People should have the freedoms to do what they want as long as they're not bringing harm to others. I'll live it at that and we can agree to disagree.

My breh I agree with you ideally - equality is a noble goal.

But Women and men are biologically and psychologically different - it’s something we’ve known for thousands of years regardless of the civilization.

The west has good intentions, but things will just keep getting worse and worse because we think we know better than the wisdom of previous generations. But agree to disagree:yeshrug:
 

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the society where people make their own choices without fear of physcial harm.

This may sound harsh but, most women's natural polarity is going to steer towards the chaotic end. Just their nature. Like somebody already said, women tend to be more whimsical and capricious. You leave them to their own devices, problems will arise in a community.

The men don't play that. I don't necessarily agree with the harm and abuse but, that's the way they keep a hold on things over there.

Like I said, it's their culture. You can't say somebody else's way of life is wrong because it doesn't fit with your own personal sensibilities. America has actually been gradually trying to social engineer Saudi Arabia for a while now. To be more Western.
 

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I'm reluctant to call it oppression tbh that's just what's normal for them over there and a lot of the women think it's okay for a man to hit their wife. Before y'all go crazy on me just watch this video 60% of women in Algeria think it's okay for a man to hit their wife I can only assume it's the same in other arab countries
 

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:mjlol: Ok. Yeah that will hit a little different when you're living in the downfall.

We're living through it rn. Those in the UK after WWII lived through it. Western downfalls ain't the same thing as other countries. I'll just leave it at that.
 

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Chrishaune said:
We'll see how that works out when the country rots from the inside out just like Greece and Rome.

Liberated Societies they said.

Those societies lasted well over a thousand years, each. America has existed for a little over 200 years.

You're reaching, breh.​
 

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We're living through it rn. Those in the UK after WWII lived through it. Western downfalls ain't the same thing as other countries. I'll just leave it at that.

Breh, you have no idea what downfall (or judgement) of a nation means. When it's that time millions will die quickly and violently. You'll know then.
 
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