Are both sides (Democrat/Republican) the same? [TheColi General Consensus Poll]
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Both sides arguments are usually just deflections.
they are different. especially when it comes to economics. Tax policies for example are pretty much the complete opposite. most people should at least be willing to admit that and form a clear preference between both parties if they believe everything else is the same. and some do.
but honestly If we went issue by issue down a list i'm pretty sure we would find very few places where they have the same general consensus.
Guns: not the same
Healthcare: not the same
Immigration: not the same
Covid: not the same
affirmative action: not the same
abortion: not the same
etc
they are different. especially when it comes to economics. Tax policies for example are pretty much the complete opposite. most people should at least be willing to admit that and form a clear preference between both parties if they believe everything else is the same. and some do.
but honestly If we went issue by issue down a list i'm pretty sure we would find very few places where they have the same general consensus.
Guns: not the same
Healthcare: not the same
Immigration: not the same
Covid: not the same
affirmative action: not the same
abortion: not the same
etc
Doctor Wily
CapcomSwag
Pre tea party/trumpism yes both sides were pretty much the same
Now ? Its not even close.
There's more of a mix of ideologies on the left compared to the right since 08.
Trump gave the party (that will be quick to disassociate themselves from him either in the next two months or 4 years) thier new identity if they choose to keep it.
Now ? Its not even close.
There's more of a mix of ideologies on the left compared to the right since 08.
Trump gave the party (that will be quick to disassociate themselves from him either in the next two months or 4 years) thier new identity if they choose to keep it.
They're the same in that they're both backed by Corporate donors. However, the Republican party is just an outright fascist party and would be considered far right in any other western democracy.
Of course not.
But they do both function as corporate, neoliberal electoral bodies. In that wat they are "the same."
The DNC is center-right and the GOP is far-right.
There are no legitimately well-recognized Left parties in the US.
But they do both function as corporate, neoliberal electoral bodies. In that wat they are "the same."
The DNC is center-right and the GOP is far-right.
There are no legitimately well-recognized Left parties in the US.
Both sides are not the same in the literal sense, but I'm not sure arguing "both sides are the same" is making an argument that there are literally no differences between the two. Seems like it is more people who are unhappy with both parties and don't feel like either of the two really address what they care about.
get these nets
Veteran
No and "both sides" is a mantra designed to create/increase/justify voter apathy.
Perfect summation
Drew Wonder
Superstar
There’s definitely a Far Left wing of the Democratic Party. But they get treated like a drunk uncle that the mainstream Dems are too embarrassed to invite to family functions because they’re scared of the GOP viewing them all that way. The funny thing is the GOP calls anything slightly left of center Far Left anyway so the mainstream Dems need to just embrace it. But they’ll never have the balls to do it.
The GOP embraced their more radical elements and it got them the presidency.
Kyle C. Barker
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Prior to Trump I would disagree that both parties are the same but I also wouldn't hold it against you if you felt that way. But since Trump came in there is a clear difference. The Republicans embrace the far right end of their party the Democrat's won't do that with real liberals because they are scared of frightening moderates but that's another issue for another day.
Both siders in 2020 are essentially normalizing and justifying Trump's behavior.
Both siders in 2020 are essentially normalizing and justifying Trump's behavior.
Scott Larock
Its hard leaving thecoli but I gotta find a way...
Exacly, they need your support but they'll never put anything in your hand. They'll invest around you but knowing you lack structure they know it won't do anything.
Neither will ever help blacks succed it's just a game.
They talk about Covid but won't talk about the bad diets a lot of black people have in the south, the fat, greasy foods that we're told is "cultural" leads to death but they don't talk about that, just the death as a weapon to use for fear of voting GOP.
They love the culture for the social aspects and many eat off it but hate the crime that comes with it.
We can go on and on. No real friends here and these dudes aren't gonna change.
Not really. I think he is speaking more about the current candidates than the actual parties. In that case it may be more accurate. but I wouldn't describe Republicans as far right in general and especially wouldn't describe democrats as center right. Someone Like Mccain was center right.Obama was center left. Someone like Bernie is Far Left. Trump far right. The party tends to follow the lead of whoever is in office. However as leader you have to govern all the people of the country, not just your supporters, so it's hard to be a good leader if you only cater to one demographic. one extreme direction. The ideal presidential leader would shrug off party affiliation when they take office and take an unbiased approach to governing the nation. Obviously no one does that, so imo best next thing is to be as close to center as possible.
This post proves his point. Bernie's platform is center left in 90% of the world. Obama Is right leaning in most of the world's political structures
The democrats are a center right party on the world stage
