Are most US cities actually suburban?

[KingJudah2]

You should stop speaking authoritatively on LA immediately. South Central Los Angeles has about 800,000 people in 51 square miles, but that's not a high population density? Central Los Angeles has over 900,000 people in 58 square miles------>I just want to point out that both Central and South LA individually are more densely populated than the cities of Philadelphia and Chicago, and Central x South LA individually are both larger and more dense than the entire cities of Boston and Washington...

But somehow you believe there is no high population density neighborhoods in Los Angeles?

This can get real embarrassing really quickly, so I think it's probably best to not speak so authoritatively on Los Angeles. You're clearly outta your element here...

Proof? Ill buy in you show proof.

 

[murksiderock]

Proof? Ill buy in you show proof.

You have Google nikka lmao. You've clearly never been to LA, so use your Google and stop acting like an LA authority...

LA looks different from what you're used to because it's on the other side of the continent with a fully and completely different geography and climate. It has suburban areas because it has enormous city boundaries, yet still has an overall population density over ~8500, which is more or close to fabled "urban" East Coast cities like Providence, Hartford, Bridgeport, New Haven, Worcester, Buffalo, Rochester, Albany, Pittsburgh, Allentown, and Baltimore---->all cities that "look" how you think urban cities should but are less urban than LA...

And again, Central+South LA is larger than Philly by about 125,000 people, in 25 less square mileage. Central and South LA individually are both larger than the entire cities of Boston and DC, denser than both Boston and DC, and both lesser square mileage than DC...all cities that "look" how you think urban cities look...

Neither Philadelphia nor DC have Census tracts over 75k/ppsm. Los Angeles has like 15. But there's no urban neighborhoods in LA hahaha....

No offense Black Man, but I don't need you to buy into anything. You're hellbent on willful ignorance, just admit you spoke out of turn. Urbanity doesn't take on one form or fashion. The Northeast was developed earlier than anywhere else in the US and they were European influenced, that's why it looks different. New York is on a different plane of unique because even other urban NE places pale in comparison, but NY is not the only urban place in the US, and the Northeast isn't the only urban region...

 

[Cave Savage]

They’re referring to affluent suburbs.
Every medium-to-large city in the US has affluent suburbs, often white flight suburbs, with vastly lower crime rates.

I understand that dynamic, but often times it's not really true. Even in like, 1990 there were rich, hyper urban areas like Manhattan South of 110th street or Park Slope, while there were poor suburban areas like Roosevelt, Wyandanch, and North Amityville.

Doesn't Chicago also have a lot of run down suburbs in addition to its wealthier ones?

 

[Responsible Allen Iverson]

If you're gonna discuss urban vs. suburban, you need standards for what constitutes urban and suburban, not just what people "feel" is urban or suburban

 

[Cave Savage]

If you're gonna discuss urban vs. suburban, you need standards for what constitutes urban and suburban, not just what people "feel" is urban or suburban

Well, my opinion is subjective.

I consider urban to feature apartment buildings (particularly large or attached ones), good public transit, high level of walkability.

While suburbs are autocentric and have mostly detached single family houses.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

White Plains and Yonkers are both cities.

Yonkers resembles the North Bronx.

White Plains and Yonkers are cities located in the suburb.


White Plains and Yonkers are not in the same category as a NYC, Philly, Boston, LA etc.

Do Yonkers and White Plains have their own suburbs? No!

 

[UberEatsDriver]

You know what Im sayin though right

No both of you obviously don’t understand the levels of cities.

Yonkers and any of the cities you keep mentioning located on the outskirts of NYC are not cities to same magnitude as NYC




All those cities are literally dependent on NYC.

You literally have to use the Metro North Station in Yonkers.

Yonkers doesn’t even have its own bus system. Instead it uses the Bee Line bus system which travels all throughout Westchester County

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Newark is a City, East Orance is a city, Bloomfield is a suburb. Newark is not IN Bloomfield. Montclair is a suburb, Newark is NOT in Montclair. Yonkers is not in a suburb of NY. Whiteplains is a suburb. SUB-Urban. In Westchester county there is both urban and suburban. Yonkers is a city, Urban. Whiteplains - suburban . This isn't hard to grasp. There are suburbs around New York, the cities just outside of NY are not "IN" suburbs. They're in the metro area.

Lol are you making up geography now?

Lol.

Bro Yonkers the city is located in Westchester County which is the burbs.

But to say Yonkers is a city like NYC is a city is hilariously stupid lol.

All of these smaller cities located in these suburbs that surround NYC are dependent off NYC just like Compton is dependent off La

 

[UberEatsDriver]

And btw @murksiderock is right about LA.

I been to LA before and there are much more people interactions on the street than many northeast cities outside of NYC.

People who do not understand cities like to say LA isn’t urban because it lacks in transportation for a large city.

True but it’s still very urban and crowded for a city.

 

[ISO]

White Plains and Yonkers are cities located in the suburb.


White Plains and Yonkers are not in the same category as a NYC, Philly, Boston, LA etc.

Do Yonkers and White Plains have their own suburbs? No!

So you saying it is a city then just a small city where is the disagreement here?

Yonkers nikkas carry themselves like city nikkas and the trope is they are the unofficial 6th borough and should replace Staten Island.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

So you saying it is a city then just a small city where is the disagreement here?

Yonkers nikkas carry themselves like city nikkas and the trope is they are the unofficial 6th borough and should replace Staten Island.

Lol you talking hood politics. In that sense I agree with you 100%.

But me, @Cave Savage , and @murksiderock are not talking hood politics. We talking about real geography.

Im not saying Yonkers is not a city. I’m just saying it’s a city located in the burbs (Westchester County). Its not in same context as NYC.

Them Yonkers nikkas dead ass use the Metro North just like nikkas in Long Island use the Long Island Railroad

 

[KingJudah2]

You have Google nikka lmao. You've clearly never been to LA, so use your Google and stop acting like an LA authority...

LA looks different from what you're used to because it's on the other side of the continent with a fully and completely different geography and climate. It has suburban areas because it has enormous city boundaries, yet still has an overall population density over ~8500, which is more or close to fabled "urban" East Coast cities like Providence, Hartford, Bridgeport, New Haven, Worcester, Buffalo, Rochester, Albany, Pittsburgh, Allentown, and Baltimore---->all cities that "look" how you think urban cities should but are less urban than LA...

And again, Central+South LA is larger than Philly by about 125,000 people, in 25 less square mileage. Central and South LA individually are both larger than the entire cities of Boston and DC, denser than both Boston and DC, and both lesser square mileage than DC...all cities that "look" how you think urban cities look...

Neither Philadelphia nor DC have Census tracts over 75k/ppsm. Los Angeles has like 15. But there's no urban neighborhoods in LA hahaha....

No offense Black Man, but I don't need you to buy into anything. You're hellbent on willful ignorance, just admit you spoke out of turn. Urbanity doesn't take on one form or fashion. The Northeast was developed earlier than anywhere else in the US and they were European influenced, that's why it looks different. New York is on a different plane of unique because even other urban NE places pale in comparison, but NY is not the only urban place in the US, and the Northeast isn't the only urban region...

This just hearsay

Show proof and Ill give you due credit.

 

[KingJudah2]

Lol are you making up geography now?

Lol.

Bro Yonkers the city is located in Westchester County which is the burbs.

But to say Yonkers is a city like NYC is a city is hilariously stupid lol.

All of these smaller cities located in these suburbs that surround NYC are dependent off NYC just like Compton is dependent off La

Westchester county is a county. In it are cities AND suburbs. Nobody said Yonkers is a city LIKE NYC, it's still a city. No city is like NYC. So you saying because the cities near NYC arent like NYC they not cities? tf?You buggin Zoe

 

[KingJudah2]

No both of you obviously don’t understand the levels of cities.

Yonkers and any of the cities you keep mentioning located on the outskirts of NYC are not cities to same magnitude as NYC




All those cities are literally dependent on NYC.

You literally have to use the Metro North Station in Yonkers.

Yonkers doesn’t even have its own bus system. Instead it uses the Bee Line bus system which travels all throughout Westchester County

Who said they the same maginitude the fukk is you talkin about. You going into red herrings and shyt. Lot of cities down south have less public transportation than Yonkers but they're cities.You confused. RAHTED ooman... *stups*