Are most US cities actually suburban?

[ORDER_66]

Even tho you felt weirded out you expected to see that right?

No I didn't I was shocked... nothing but hills and trees... no city street lights, no bodegas, no subways it was crazy... We did pass a house a lone brick house taking a cab from the station... but there was literally nothing else around... I'm like and people live in places like this???

 

[KingJudah2]

This is wrong on a whole bunch of levels. Let's just start with the fact that LA had the same land area square mileage in 1990 that it has today, 30 years later, and we'll go from there...

I misread. It was further back they annexed the suburbs. LA is still a bunch of suburbs grouped together

 

[UberEatsDriver]

I get what you're saying. But the "mini cities" are not in a suburb. They're cities. Theyre in a metro area.
LA is different. LA was only downtown until 1990 then they annexed the suburbs around downtown like Compton to make LA a big "city" to get that fed money. NYC, Newark, Jersey City were established back then as they are now and still have the same borders. LA is just a network of suburbs that they call a city. Out west is newer so they played with the borders more since it wasn't as built up. NYC always been NYC, Newark always been Newark. Yonkers been Yonkers, Cambridge been Cambridge. These are cities and urban areas (high pop density) not suburbs or in suburbs.

I’m speaking on physical location.

What does Yonkers being Yonkers have to do with its location?

Yonkers is located in Westchester County. Westchester County is 100% the suburbs wether Yonkers is a city or not or being Yonkers.

Same applies to Newark and JC. They aren’t suburban by any stretch but both cities are located in a suburb of NYC.

Also outside Newark, Essex County is very suburban.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

No I didn't I was shocked... nothing but hills and trees... no city street lights, no bodegas, no subways it was crazy... We did pass a house a lone brick house taking a cab from the station... but there was literally nothing else around... I'm like and people live in places like this???

Interesting. I always knew NY state was filled with mountains, Woods and trees even before I tracked up there.

 

[murksiderock]

I misread. It was further back they annexed the suburbs. LA is still a bunch of suburbs grouped together

Only East Coast elitism characterizes LA like that. The US was developed from east to west, the native inhabitants and settlers of NY were different than the like in LA and influenced differently. LA is much younger and came up in a completely different era than NY, 2800 miles apart, in a part of the country that is characteristically different across the board...

LA is different and arguably the most unique city in the country. But its unquestionably a city, the only place on the East Coast, and probably the entire country, that can say it's more urban than LA is NY. No one else, and that's what makes NY arguably the most unique city in the country, because no other place really pulls off what NY does at that level...

But that doesn't mean NY is the only urban city in the country, or that everyone outside of NY's orbit is a suburb. Otherwise, you can characterize NY as a collection if suburbs, as each borough were all initially independent cities, and each borough has suburban neighborhoods in all of them. So your description makes no sense. New York City (Manhattan) annexed adjacent cities to make a larger city, this is hardly something to talk about other places for doing...

 

[The Coochie Assassin]

I get what you're saying. But the "mini cities" are not in a suburb. They're cities. Theyre in a metro area.
LA is different. LA was only downtown until 1990 then they annexed the suburbs around downtown like Compton to make LA a big "city" to get that fed money. NYC, Newark, Jersey City were established back then as they are now and still have the same borders. LA is just a network of suburbs that they call a city. Out west is newer so they played with the borders more since it wasn't as built up. NYC always been NYC, Newark always been Newark. Yonkers been Yonkers, Cambridge been Cambridge. These are cities and urban areas (high pop density) not suburbs or in suburbs.

Compton isn't a apart of the City of LA. It is in LA County tho.

 

[ORDER_66]

Interesting. I always knew NY state was filled with mountains, Woods and trees even before I tracked up there.

Yeah this like my first time going upstate like that I was not prepared...

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Yeah this like my first time going upstate like that I was not prepared...

I remember seeing my boy in prison upstate and was driving on narrow roads sherobded by big snow covered mountains.

It was very beautiful tho.

 

[KingJudah2]

Compton isn't a apart of the City of LA. It is in LA County tho.

Isn't apart? So it's a part oof the city? Or apart from. Apart and a part are two different things... Do you know english?

 

[KingJudah2]

Only East Coast elitism characterizes LA like that. The US was developed from east to west, the native inhabitants and settlers of NY were different than the like in LA and influenced differently. LA is much younger and came up in a completely different era than NY, 2800 miles apart, in a part of the country that is characteristically different across the board...

LA is different and arguably the most unique city in the country. But its unquestionably a city, the only place on the East Coast, and probably the entire country, that can say it's more urban than LA is NY. No one else, and that's what makes NY arguably the most unique city in the country, because no other place really pulls off what NY does at that level...

But that doesn't mean NY is the only urban city in the country, or that everyone outside of NY's orbit is a suburb. Otherwise, you can characterize NY as a collection if suburbs, as each borough were all initially independent cities, and each borough has suburban neighborhoods in all of them. So your description makes no sense. New York City (Manhattan) annexed adjacent cities to make a larger city, this is hardly something to talk about other places for doing...

No, LA is suburbs because the neighborhoods aren't high population density.If you interpret that negatively that's on you. Brooklyn, Bronx, parts of Queens always been high population density and the highest in the country, and their own cities. Much of LA is actual suburbs. Lawns, single family, single story homes, etc.

 

[KingJudah2]

I’m speaking on physical location.

What does Yonkers being Yonkers have to do with its location?

Yonkers is located in Westchester County. Westchester County is 100% the suburbs wether Yonkers is a city or not or being Yonkers.

Same applies to Newark and JC. They aren’t suburban by any stretch but both cities are located in a suburb of NYC.

Also outside Newark, Essex County is very suburban.

Newark is a City, East Orance is a city, Bloomfield is a suburb. Newark is not IN Bloomfield. Montclair is a suburb, Newark is NOT in Montclair. Yonkers is not in a suburb of NY. Whiteplains is a suburb. SUB-Urban. In Westchester county there is both urban and suburban. Yonkers is a city, Urban. Whiteplains - suburban . This isn't hard to grasp. There are suburbs around New York, the cities just outside of NY are not "IN" suburbs. They're in the metro area.

 

[ISO]

Newark is a City, East Orance is a city, Bloomfield is a suburb. Newark is not IN Bloomfield. Montclair is a suburb, Newark is NOT in Montclair. Yonkers is not in a suburb of NY. Whiteplains is a suburb. SUB-Urban. In Westchester county there is both urban and suburban. Yonkers is a city, Urban. Whiteplains - suburban . This isn't hard to grasp. There are suburbs around New York, the cities just outside of NY are not "IN" suburbs. They're in the metro area.

White Plains and Yonkers are both cities.

Yonkers resembles the North Bronx.

 

[KingJudah2]

White Plains and Yonkers are both cities.

Yonkers resembles the North Bronx.

You know what Im sayin though right

 

[murksiderock]

No, LA is suburbs because the neighborhoods aren't high population density.If you interpret that negatively that's on you. Brooklyn, Bronx, parts of Queens always been high population density and the highest in the country, and their own cities. Much of LA is actual suburbs. Lawns, single family, single story homes, etc.

You should stop speaking authoritatively on LA immediately. South Central Los Angeles has about 800,000 people in 51 square miles, but that's not a high population density? Central Los Angeles has over 900,000 people in 58 square miles------>I just want to point out that both Central and South LA individually are more densely populated than the cities of Philadelphia and Chicago, and Central x South LA individually are both larger and more dense than the entire cities of Boston and Washington...

But somehow you believe there is no high population density neighborhoods in Los Angeles?

This can get real embarrassing really quickly, so I think it's probably best to not speak so authoritatively on Los Angeles. You're clearly outta your element here...

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

You mean, essentially, cities that have buildings over a certain height over a certain amount of space?

Most cities have downtown districts but NYC is a city that has that and the urban feel expands to neighborhood in residential areas.