Are records in a 17-game season really the "record" ?

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NFL records are whatever anyway but yes, it's the record for a 17-game season but when people compare it to what someone did over 16 games it makes zero sense. Also, yes there was once a 14-game season and a 12-game season. Cool.

Myles Garrett could break the sack record but so what. The record of 22.5 was over 16 games. Strahan shouldn't even have 22.5 but it is what it is.

Just so people don't think I'm biased. CMC could get to 1,000 yards receiving and it'd be the 4th time in NFL history a guy has done 1,000/1,000 but over 17 games it ain't the same. Other three were CMC himself, Faulk and of course Roger Craig who should be in the HOF
 

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NFL records are whatever anyway but yes, it's the record for a 17-game season but when people compare it to what someone did over 16 games it makes zero sense. Also, yes there was once a 14-game season and a 12-game season. Cool.

Myles Garrett could break the sack record but so what. The record of 22.5 was over 16 games. Strahan shouldn't even have 22.5 but it is what it is.

Just so people don't think I'm biased. CMC could get to 1,000 yards receiving and it'd be the 4th time in NFL history a guy has done 1,000/1,000 but over 17 games it ain't the same. Other three were CMC himself, Faulk and of course Roger Craig who should be in the HOF
So we either only count 12 games or we count for however many games there currently are. Cant just stop at 16 because that is what we grew up on.
 
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I feel like this is another one those "it didn't count because it's different from when I was a kid" situations.

Seasons used to be 10 games, should 16 game seasons not count The same?

my approach is just enjoy what you are seeing. Be in the moment.
 
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Garrett has played significantly less pass rush snaps than Strahan or Watt. The game total is irrelevant.

Who is sitting around discussing that? Or discussing that the rules for QBs and receivers going over the middle are different etc...

The only issue is when people pretend like there's no difference between 16 and 17 games and it's mostly coming from the football media.

Per game averages would be better than raw numbers but :manny:
 
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So we either only count 12 games or we count for however man games there currently are. Cant just stop at 16 because that is what we grew up on.

It's not about me growing up with 16 games, I acknowledged it was 14 and 12 previously. It's about people like the media (and some fans) pretending like there's no difference.

I was GLAD that Cooper Kupp didn't break the receiving record because people were acting like it made no difference between him playing 17 games and Calvin Johnson playing 16 games.

Johnson averaged 122.8 yards per game vs. Kupp's 114.5
 

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There’s always asterisks or parentheses stating how many games that are played, so yes it’s a record. Other than that, like man said, per snap would be a the correct adjustment factor.
 

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depends on the record. i dont really care for records...but rather milestones/achievements. examples are 2000 yard rushing club, triple crown for receivers etc.

cause somebody can get 2000 rushing yards on 400 carries while another gets it in 350 for example.

regardless to be in the realm of a record is a feat and signals somebody is the best of their time
 
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Could ask the same question when they bumped it to 16 games :yeshrug:

For context the NFL season was 12 games for 14 years. Before that is like pre-historic times that nobody can talk about. WWII and everything else getting in the way.

The 14-game season lasted 18 years.

The 16-game season lasted 43 years. There's more history of 16-game season that the 12 and 14 combined..
 

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It's not about me growing up with 16 games, I acknowledged it was 14 and 12 previously. It's about people like the media (and some fans) pretending like there's no difference.

I was GLAD that Cooper Kupp didn't break the receiving record because people were acting like it made no difference between him playing 17 games and Calvin Johnson playing 16 games.

Johnson averaged 122.8 yards per game vs. Kupp's 114.5
But they did that with 16 as well. Football isn't a per game sport. It is what it is.
 

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For context the NFL season was 12 games for 14 years. Before that is like pre-historic times that nobody can talk about. WWII and everything else getting in the way.

The 14-game season lasted 18 years.

The 16-game season lasted 43 years. There's more history of 16-game season that the 12 and 14 combined..
NFL is more than 100 years old. So there is more < 16 game history than =/>. Either we are about fairness and acknowledging history or we arent. It cant just be "the timr that I like matters". And rule and playstyle changes have a far bigger impact than season length. Either you accept it all or account for it all :manny:.
 
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