Are the Knicks really going to pay JR?

[tremonthustler1]

Jennings's is a pg who sucks at his job and shoots horrible .

and now we'll see what the market bears for him. Someone's gonna pay big bucks for him to start. We will see who.

Crawford was a starter before

So was JR. JR came into the league as a starter. Crawford averaged 20.6 for the Knicks 5 years ago. Tell me how the Knicks did. Matter of fact, how did Crawford overall do when he started? His inefficiency showed and for guys that specialize in providing instant offense (like JR), those guys don't do as well as starters. As bench players, they get more of an opportunity to freelance and when they're not on, you have a shorter leash as a coach.

Whatever you think about jrs intelligence he plays starter minutes rebounds and can score . He's a bench player technically but he plays starter minutes

so again, why doesn't he START?

 

[23Barrettcity]

JR Smith is probably the dumbest player in the league. Signing him long term is a potential disaster

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You saw that bucks series and josh smith is pretty damn dumb himself

 

[Danie84]

They should divide the money up to Shump and Prigi instead

 

[RicanHavok]

so again, why doesn't he START?

I truly believe Woodson felt that was his best way to get JR rewarded for his role. The Knicks many times over throughout the season needed him in the starting lineup but Woodson wouldn't budge. JR's earned an opportunity to start...now that doesn't mean he'll flourish but we really don't know.

 

[23Barrettcity]

and now we'll see what the market bears for him. Someone's gonna pay big bucks for him to start. We will see who.


So was JR. JR came into the league as a starter. Crawford averaged 20.6 for the Knicks 5 years ago. Tell me how the Knicks did. Matter of fact, how did Crawford overall do when he started? His inefficiency showed and for guys that specialize in providing instant offense (like JR), those guys don't do as well as starters. As bench players, they get more of an opportunity to freelance and when they're not on, you have a shorter leash as a coach.




so again, why doesn't he START?

He didn't start because we needed bench scoring we have a shyt load of guards . But the fact that he plays starter minutes and isn't as ineffecient as your saying he would be so any team can look at that and say oh he can start .

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

just to play devil's advocate, JR started next to Andre Miller when he first go to Denver and he took nothing but efficient/high percentage shots.

then the AI trade happened and JR learned to embrace his inner hoodrat.

 

[23Barrettcity]

I truly believe Woodson felt that was his best way to get JR rewarded for his role. The Knicks many times over throughout the season needed him in the starting lineup but Woodson wouldn't budge. JR's earned an opportunity to start...now that doesn't mean he'll flourish but we really don't know.

People are really making it seem like jr is worse than he is . I know Damn sure I watch more Knicks than the people saying this stuff he usually comes in like 2-4 minutes into the game and plays starter minutes . He wasn't this mess people made him out to be

 

[CantStop]

JR loves the night life too much to leave. Knicks can offer him the minimum and he would stay.

 

[23Barrettcity]

just to play devil's advocate, JR started next to Andre Miller when he first go to Denver and he took nothing but efficient/high percentage shots.

then the AI trade happened and JR learned to embrace his inner hoodrat.

I'm not even saying jr is going to turn into Kobe jr if he starts but the guy took a huge load this year and is definitely able to start .

 

[tremonthustler1]

He didn't start because we needed bench scoring we have a shyt load of guards . But the fact that he plays starter minutes and isn't as ineffecient as your saying he would be so any team can look at that and say oh he can start .

and what does JR do best?

Score. In bunches. Off the bench.

But the fact that he plays starter minutes and isn't as ineffecient as your saying he would be

He's been averaging "starter minutes" since Denver. If you can't see why a guy like JR wouldn't do as well starting a game as opposed to doing what he's doing now, there's no getting through to you. There IS a difference in how you play and how you approach playing. JR functions better coming off of a bench. Starting removes what is the best asset of him coming off the bench.

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

I'm not even saying jr is going to turn into Kobe jr if he starts but the guy took a huge load this year and is definitely able to start .

he would definitely need an Andre Miller type PG next to him again that's going to do most of the thinking for him.

 

[23Barrettcity]

and what does JR do best?

Score. In bunches. Off the bench.




He's been averaging "starter minutes" since Denver. If you can't see why a guy like JR wouldn't do as well starting a game as opposed to doing what he's doing now, there's no getting through to you. There IS a difference in how you play and how you approach playing. JR functions better coming off of a bench. Starting removes what is the best asset of him coming off the bench.

24 minutes a game starter minutes ? no they are not so your whole premise Is wrong this is the first time he's averaged 33+ minutes a game and he put up starter stats. I can't agree with you because it sounds lie you dont know what your talking about , Avery Bradley is better than jr? He starts . Brandon Jennings a pg who's a shot chucker starts , josh smith is dumb himself .

 

[JLaw]

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[tremonthustler1]

24 minutes a game starter minutes ? no they are not so your whole premise Is wrong this is the first time he's averaged 33+ minutes a game and he put up starter stats.

28 is, and he's been averaging that 4 of the last 5 years

Were James White and Ronnie Brewer and a beyond his prime Jason Kidd so necessary that they needed to start over JR? JR functions better in his current role. Nevermind the other reasons why he simply fits better as a Knick compared to some other spot, that's a separate issue, but they put him in a role that clearly works for him and the team. It's not because "oh they need bench scoring." He's the 2nd best scorer on the team. That excuse is more suited for a guy like Amar'e nowadays than it is for JR.

Avery Bradley is better than jr? He starts . Brandon Jennings a pg who's a shot chucker starts , josh smith is dumb himself .

Defense is Avery Bradley's calling card, NOT his offense. That's why he starts and guys like Jason Terry and Courtney Lee come off the bench. And mind you, that's a team that NEEDS the offense.

again you keep going back to Jennings as if anyone here's vouching for him. It's damn near known that if someone's gonna throw a shyt ton of money at him, it's not gonna be a good team and they'd be blowing money. Now if you're saying a crap team's willing to do that with JR, fine, but JR will then show in that role why a crappy team did that and not a good one.


and even bringing up Josh Smith was stupid.

 

[23Barrettcity]

28 is, and he's been averaging that 4 of the last 5 years

Were James White and Ronnie Brewer and a beyond his prime Jason Kidd so necessary that they needed to start over JR? JR functions better in his current role. Nevermind the other reasons why he simply fits better as a Knick compared to some other spot, that's a separate issue, but they put him in a role that clearly works for him and the team. It's not because "oh they need bench scoring." He's the 2nd best scorer on the team. That excuse is more suited for a guy like Amar'e nowadays than it is for JR.



Defense is Avery Bradley's calling card, NOT his offense. That's why he starts and guys like Jason Terry and Courtney Lee come off the bench. And mind you, that's a team that NEEDS the offense.

again you keep going back to Jennings as if anyone here's vouching for him. It's damn near known that if someone's gonna throw a shyt ton of money at him, it's not gonna be a good team and they'd be blowing money. Now if you're saying a crap team's willing to do that with JR, fine, but JR will then show in that role why a crappy team did that and not a good one.


and even bringing up Josh Smith was stupid.

He never averaged 28 minutes ever alittle more than 27 so that's still not starter minutes and you guys are saying jr is to stupid to start yet josh smith shot selection is pretty bad too. Jr is way better than Courtney lee and terry at this point in his career. Your arguing against a whole bunch of arguments I didn't make also I never said jr would be a top 10 player or something I just said he can average 20 a game starting and he can plus this year showed he can play high minutes and be effective. All this other stuff your arguing is your opinion of how jr will fail , maybe he will maybe be wont but he can and earned the right to start since you don't like his game your making it seem like hell be a disaster .
I can go through the league and show you a bunch of sgs that aren't better than jr intelligence or not and are starting its not as serious as your making it