Are the Lox overrated?

[BK The Great]

How does that make the lox tapes more popular?

Again… you have presented zero evidence to support anything your saying.

Come back when you have some evidence ok.

I’m dying at you downplaying Wayne’s popularity in a fukking Lox thread

Wayne looks up to Jada & Ruff Ryders

 

[DANJ!]

What other group or act is given a pass to have mid albums for 30 years though? Why are we holding gn to a different standards then we do other legends?

Also That versuz was more about dipset being overrated(and terrible live performers)than anything with the Lox. It’s not like Money power respect became a good album in retrospect because of that night.

If those other groups still had taken part in all the stuff the LOX took part in, they would absolutely get the credit they get. Nobody's crediting them with having a great output of albums... but the albums aren't really the whole of their legacy. If anything, those are the LEAST of their legacy. And that what hurts them as an all-time group. But taking that away, it's still kinda hard to overlook them. They're just solidified, that's not an exaggeration. Everyone respects and acknowledges them, especially as part of that era they represent.

 

[BK The Great]

Interscope couldn’t put more promoting dollars in this single over 50 Cent & Eminem’s stuff? This dropped the same time their albums dropped. They were doomed from the start.

 

[Art Barr]

Interscope couldn’t put more promoting dollars in this single over 50 Cent & Eminem’s stuff? This dropped the same time their albums dropped. They were doomed from the start.

Most uplifting content of the era.



Art Barr

 

[BK The Great]

Most uplifting content of the era.



Art Barr

Record labels wouldn’t push music like that before, now they know they would be ridiculed if they didn’t. Same with Jada’s song

 

[nieman]

So Ransom, Griselda/Benny/38 Spesh are pretty much better versions of what Lox represent, with far better catalog of music.

Fab is another that is known for mixtapes and freestyles, with trash albums. Even he doesn't get the love Lox do. And his singles were more successful.

State Prop isn't even as loved as Lox. And Beans has The B.Coming...which the best thing Lox put out is Gangster/Gentleman which still under...Freeway has better albums, and the tons of mixtapes O & Chris put out that are of quality

CNN have The War Report, NORE, and while Capone's albums are trash, he goes bar for bar with anyone.

The Clipse/Re-Up/Pusha has better albums and mixtapes...and freestyles.

Lox are more revered than others in their bracket that put out much better quality music, just as many mixtapes if not more. To elevate them based on status is really disrespectful to others that out in the work.

 

[BK The Great]

So Ransom, Griselda/Benny/38 Spesh are pretty much better versions of what Lox represent, with far better catalog of music.

Fab is another that is known for mixtapes and freestyles, with trash albums. Even he doesn't get the love Lox do. And his singles were more successful.

State Prop isn't even as loved as Lox. And Beans has The B.Coming...which the best thing Lox put out is Gangster/Gentleman which still under...Freeway has better albums, and the tons of mixtapes O & Chris put out that are of quality

CNN have The War Report, NORE, and while Capone's albums are trash, he goes bar for bar with anyone.

The Clipse/Re-Up/Pusha has better albums and mixtapes...and freestyles.

Lox are more revered than others in their bracket that put out much better quality music, just as many mixtapes if not more. To elevate them based on status is really disrespectful to others that out in the work.

Griselda/38 Spesh are basically offspings of Lox, they got songs with them too.

 

[L $ C]

Diplomatic Immunity is so much better than any Lox or d block album but they still arnt BETTER than the lox, does that make sense?

 

[ISO]

I love the Lox and they are rated properly to me.

They not in that outkast, nwa, tribe, ball and g, ugk, mobb deep, goodie mob, bone, wu, pe tier......groups with skills, hit records, large cultural impact, etc

Then the next lower tier would be groups like the clipse, hot boyz, etc

But id put them in the tier under that. Theyve always been one of my.favorite groups since the first bad boy album and my favorite is we are the streets. With the guest verses and mixtapes and being dope mcs for so long they're well respected.

If you gauge them by record sales etc then a lot of groups beat them.

The LOX under Clipse

 

[TheDarceKnight]

What other group or act is given a pass to have mid albums for 30 years though? Why are we holding gn to a different standards then we do other legends?

Also That versuz was more about dipset being overrated(and terrible live performers)than anything with the Lox. It’s not like Money power respect became a good album in retrospect because of that night.

This is a little bit inaccurate, though. Yes, they get a pass for having mid albums, but it's not like they only dropped mid albums and did nothing else. Because no one really champions their albums when they talk about what makes them great. What makes them great is the undeniable talent. The excellent songs within those albums. The verses with Biggie, and Jay, and X, and Pun, and the classic back and forth bars, and the excellent mixtapes, and the beefs with Beanie Sigel/State Prop, the Versuz with Dipset, and the overall longevity and consistency of skill.

They don't have classic albums as a group, but they have a lot of good work as solo artists as well for a long ass time span. The 3 of them never broke up or beefed internally with each other. That alone is super dope and admirable. fukk, how many groups can say that?

 

[TheDarceKnight]

The LOX under Clipse

At face value it's an odd take, but I don't necessarily hate it. If you judge your groups based on their catalogue, it's not a bad take at all. Clipse has a legitimate all time classic album that still sounds like nothing before or since then, and they have another album that's maybe not classic, but not far off either.

Clipse's first two albums are crazy fire.

I still have Lox over the Clipse personally, but if you're just going off their albums as a group? It could be Clipse.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Diplomatic Immunity is so much better than any Lox or d block album but they still arnt BETTER than the lox, does that make sense?

And this is why I thought Lox was gonna win their battle. I had friends saying "well Dipset has the better album" but those other factors like controlling the crowd, persona, breath control, not rhyming over vocals, having a DJ that's locked in with you, being an actual brotherhood, etc....Lox are a more polished and better group.

Love Dipset and especially their first album but Dipset always felt like a collective of dudes to me and less of an actual "group."

 

[maxamusa]

At face value it's an odd take, but I don't necessarily hate it. If you judge your groups based on their catalogue, it's not a bad take at all. Clipse has a legitimate all time classic album that still sounds like nothing before or since then, and they have another album that's maybe not classic, but not far off either.

Clipse's first two albums are crazy fire.

I still have Lox over the Clipse personally, but if you're just going off their albums as a group? It could be Clipse.

You're crazy. Clipse has 3 classic songs. Thats it.



You could do a 30 minute set of classic LOX cuts no problem.

 

[ISO]

At face value it's an odd take, but I don't necessarily hate it. If you judge your groups based on their catalogue, it's not a bad take at all. Clipse has a legitimate all time classic album that still sounds like nothing before or since then, and they have another album that's maybe not classic, but not far off either.

Clipse's first two albums are crazy fire.

I still have Lox over the Clipse personally, but if you're just going off their albums as a group? It could be Clipse.

Clipse get hipster love. Those albums aren’t that dope they cool.

All for the Love and MPR alone clears any song on their albums.

 

[_genocidecutter_]

Nope