Are the Spurs done being a competitive franchise

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They have some decent young pieces they could become a playoff team again but as far as being perennial contenders those days are long over.

Guys like Duncan don’t come around often and to contend every year you need a top 10 all time player like him.
 

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Yeah but that's the game.

They found Kawhi who was taken 15th (albeit by the Pacers)
They found Ginobili (57th overall) and Parker (28th overall) ...though I'll admit that Pop didn't really think too highly of them at the beginning.

Yeah, having Duncan was a major part of it all. But I don't think you NEED a top 5 pick to accelerate a franchise's development.
I understand completely what you're saying. I'm not disagreeing with you. Just for the sake of highlighting it, I want to list the top 5 picks in the NBA draft going back a decade or so.

2010: John Wall, Evan Turner, Derrick Favors, Wesley Johnson, DeMarcus Cousins
2011: Kyrie Irving, Derrick Williams, Enes Kanter, Tristan Thompson, Jonas Valanciunas
2012: Anthony Davis, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Bradley Beal, Dion Waiters, Thomas Robinson
2013: Anthony Bennet, Victor Oladipo, Otto Porter, Cody Zeller, Alex Len
2014: Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, Joel Embiid, Aaron Gordon, Dante Exum
2015: Karl Anthony-Towns, D'Angelo Russel, Jahlil Okafor, Kristaps Porzingis, Mario Hezonja
2016: Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram, Jaylen Brown, Dragan Bender, Kris Dunn
2017: Markelle Fultz, Lonzo Ball, Jayson Tatum, Josh Jackson, De'Aaron Fox
2018: Deandre Ayton, Marvin Bagley, Luka Doncic, Jaren Jackson, Trae Young
2019: Zion Williamson, Ja Morant, RJ Barret, De'Andre Hunter, Darius Garland

There are some good players in that list. How many of them are "turn around your franchise" caliber?
5? 6 maybe? Out of the 50 above...

It's complicated.
The problem with this list is I'd imagine a lot of these guys careers might have turned out a lot differently if they started out under the Spurs development instead of Sacramento, Minnesota, Orlando, Knicks especially the big men.
 

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Duncan is on there staff as a coach with Becky

also if they land a top four pick they will become a dynasty again in four years I promise
Give pop Mobley, Green, or lord please not Cade. They will be back to perennial playoff status.
Nah Duncan fell back from coaching to spend more time with his kids.
 

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You don’t necessarily need a top 5 pick, but a lot of teams in the league these days are horrible when it comes to drafting and player development. They’d rather have a top pick that’s “tailor-made” instead of one they actually have to take the time and effort to develop.

Jokic is the prime example of not needing one, but a lot teams wouldn’t have even given him the reps to develop based on where he was drafted.

The NBA is worst than the music industry with that shyt.

fukkING CHRISTION WOOD ON THE fukkING PELICANS

and we let him go :beli:
 

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Done being a competitive franchise?

What is this supposed to even mean? They had a playoff streak of 22 years. That level of consistent winning is unprecedented. But every great run ends sooner or later. It's true of any great Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Heat ....hell ANYONE'S run.
They will rebuild and get after it just like everyone else.

Dummy.
To be fair franchises with prolonged success like that do seem to never get back on top of take forever. The NFL teams listed are the case. The Celtics ruled the NBA for 30 years then took almost 20 to come back. I'm a Patriots fan ready for some 7-10 (so weird typing an uneven number) seasons for the next 15 years :francis:
 

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Lets look at the facts, theyre an old team full of role players, fringe all stars, and young guys who dont really show flashes of stardom

nobody wants to play for Pop Buford and their military way of running things anymore, especially in 2021 where players can basically go wherever they want

the rest of the NBA has finally accepted that Europe and the rest of the world produces actual all star level talent and scouting them/throwing them the bag so they dont have that advantage

San Antonio is a very small market and no free agents want to live or play there

Instead of making the heir to Popovich, Tim Duncan, respected Spurs and NBA Legend who players will actually listen to and give a chance, they chose a woman :picard:

im putting the Big Boss call on San Antonio, ITS OVER

you landed Duncan and Robinson and stole a chip in 05 but that string of luck is never happening again, the Spurs are now the NBA’s raiders, cowboys, dolphins, etc franchises who will not do anything of note for 30+ years with :flabbynsick: fans talkin bout “Remember Tim Duncan? :flabbynsick:

what yall think?

Literally one of the 5 youngest teams in the league:mjlol:

The olderst player they have under contract right now is 26 year old Derrick White :mjlol:

Also Tim said after his one year of being an assistant he didn't want to be a coach. So I guess Pop is supposed to MAKE him coach:mjlol:

What did the spurs do to you for you to make a thread like this ?
 

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Crazy to think they would have still been elite now and at least for another 5 yrs into the future if they had some how kept Kawhi
Uncle Dennis low key saved us from their boring ass competence

Man if they had Kawhi with that roster, they'd be a problem. Probably a couple of pieces away from title contention in that case
 
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