Armand Hammer & The Alchemist - Haram (Discussion Thread)
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TheDarceKnight
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Quick first impression without getting into any specifics. This is my first listen to Armand Hammer, and this is so different from the type of rappers Alchemist is famous for producing. No matter what, this doesn’t sound like any of Al’s 2020 projects. It’s definitely refreshing, and I’m glad that he’s got an album like this in his catalogue. Sounds like he stepped out of his comfort zone a little bit, but without getting too weird.
I can’t imagine anyone that likes Armand Hammer not liking this. It’s my intro to then, so I’m just not used to their style yet.
Edit: @Tetris v2.0 there’s only 4 out of 15 beats on here without drums. And one has a heavy baseline and some compressed kick drums. You’ll be happy with it.
I can’t imagine anyone that likes Armand Hammer not liking this. It’s my intro to then, so I’m just not used to their style yet.
Edit: @Tetris v2.0 there’s only 4 out of 15 beats on here without drums. And one has a heavy baseline and some compressed kick drums. You’ll be happy with it.
Oh shyt
This is a great record for both of them. I don't know much about Armand Hammer except for a few of Billy Woods first few albums and the joints with Blockhead, but their style is more accessible here and Al ventures his sound out a bit as well. This was a nice surprise
TheDarceKnight
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Agreed. The main joints I couldn’t get into at all were Peppertree and Stonefruit. Those were a little bit too out there for me.
I’m very not much used to this album. I think the first 2/3rds sounding more conventional helped me out. If I’d heard the last part of the album first I might’ve had a harder time. By the time it started sounding weird I was already enjoying it.
The rapping still sounds so weird compared to what I usually listen to. If this is their more accessible stuff then wow. Lol.
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TheDarceKnight
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I never heard of them until last year. Knowing what you like, I’m not sure if you’ll like the rapping on this or not. Mach, Ka, Earl, Quele...they sound more like that than more conventional emcees.
But you’ll probably at least like the beats. I was expecting a bunch of flat drumless loops, and it ain’t that at all.
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SnowflakesByTheOZ
Sorry, that's another B
I totally missed this
Going through this right now and I'm a bit torn. 
One one hand, Elucid is showing the fukk out and fitting on these beats like a glove and I wouldn't be mad at an entire solo produced by Alchemist.
That being said, as dope as this is so far, it's not better than any of their albums with Backwoodz in-house producers. Some of these joints could benefit from being longer. Woods is spitting but it sounds like his hearts not all the way in it which would be understandable because he's probably spread thin at this point from his output these last 2 years. That Doom type run ain't for everybody, even he had to slow down at some point.
It's still a dope project though and I'll definitely be running this back.
One one hand, Elucid is showing the fukk out and fitting on these beats like a glove and I wouldn't be mad at an entire solo produced by Alchemist.
That being said, as dope as this is so far, it's not better than any of their albums with Backwoodz in-house producers. Some of these joints could benefit from being longer. Woods is spitting but it sounds like his hearts not all the way in it which would be understandable because he's probably spread thin at this point from his output these last 2 years. That Doom type run ain't for everybody, even he had to slow down at some point.
It's still a dope project though and I'll definitely be running this back.
brianwuzhere
Pro
“Revolvers to automatics, back to evolvers, nothing is static
Black b*stards, negro human laugh in the casket”
Still shouting out DOOM, even after his death.
“We lit up the night like Sodom and Gomorrah”
Then the Lord rained down sulfur and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah.
Nothing really wrong with the sequencing on their previous albums, but Alc’s seamless transitions are always gonna be special. That said, not too different from the type of production they rhymed over on Shrines, but I think the religious direction was easier to pick up on. In addition to visions of apocalypse, I caught the burning bush and the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. Plus, this is dropping during Lent when christians are forbidden to eat meat, such as pork, on Fridays. Following the optimism of Black Sunlight, the album ends in a place beyond forgiveness and disgrace in death. Elucid’s melodic flow on Stonefruit has the energy of perseverance to balance it out, but overall, I get the feeling of God giveth and God taketh away.
Black b*stards, negro human laugh in the casket”
Still shouting out DOOM, even after his death.
“We lit up the night like Sodom and Gomorrah”
Then the Lord rained down sulfur and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah.
Nothing really wrong with the sequencing on their previous albums, but Alc’s seamless transitions are always gonna be special. That said, not too different from the type of production they rhymed over on Shrines, but I think the religious direction was easier to pick up on. In addition to visions of apocalypse, I caught the burning bush and the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. Plus, this is dropping during Lent when christians are forbidden to eat meat, such as pork, on Fridays. Following the optimism of Black Sunlight, the album ends in a place beyond forgiveness and disgrace in death. Elucid’s melodic flow on Stonefruit has the energy of perseverance to balance it out, but overall, I get the feeling of God giveth and God taketh away.