Army, full out brawl

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So I never felt threatened with his egging me on, I thought he was annoying and his homeboy my friend was fukking was like "why you scared son, he only asking you to lay down a little money". I was spanking nikkas and I thought they were annoying but I wasn't bothered...

Some kinda way the conversation turned to prison, I was asked if I'd been, and there was a convo around that. My friend's boyfriend, remember he ex Army, starts talking about how he does nikkas bad in prison who think they tough guys. I'm listening and laughing and at some point I'm like "I think it's funny when police try to push a line on inmates, knowing they have the upper hand regardless". It was an innocent comment said with no intent but that triggered the dealer and ex-Army nikka and changed the energy in the room...

Homeboy was like "yo, I ain't no police, fam". I was laughing and was like, "you carry a gun and badge, you the police, nikka", and my homegirl let out a nervous laugh. He starts talking about how he from the Bronx and some wild hood, joined the Army to get away and was involved in wild shyt, and where he grew up would fold Fayetteville nikkas, and where was I from anyway? Whole time I'm laughing, like bruh I'm not from Fayetteville, I just got bagged here and made relationships here, but even if I was from Fayetteville why would it matter to me where he's from? So he gets up and goes to the kitchen to get something to drink, my homegirl sees he aggy and follows him...

So it's me and dealer left at the table and still other people there around us. I noticed the "police" word triggered him, and dealer was like "my nikka ain't police, bruh". So I repeat what I'd already said and was like yall nikkas sensitive about because you don't wanna admit you tight with police. Homeboy pauses and starts asking me where do I hang at and what do I push, tells me he deals in coke and weed. I tell him unless he trying to buy some shyt we weren't having that discussion, he goes back to talking about his car versus my car and his two chains and why would he need to buy from me, when I have no ice on and I'm pulling up in a cheap Impala, I'm afraid to gamble, he got a knot in his pocket and I haven't shown any cash, blah blah blah...

Anyway at some point his homeboy and my friend got back to the table and she massaging his shoulders and he looks at me and he's like, "I ain't no motherfukking police, yo. Police go around arresting people and pressing charges on people, I'm a corrections officer, nikka. That's it". And I responded laughing again on some "you triggered, you'll feel better when you admit you police, nikka. You ain't gotta admit it to me". Dude tensed up and it got quiet in the room because homeboy had raised his voice to be heard on some look at me shyt...

Keep in mind, he wasn't a small nikka, bout 5'11/6' and was pretty built like alota COs, I'd estimate maybe 200-215 lbs, musclebound. I'm 5'7 and at the time maybe 160, don't have an intimidating look but I've been told for years I have a presence and this is one of those times, I didn't notice it in the moment, but looking back on it it's one of the moments where I think my presence kinda took over a room and cats were trying to figure out how to read me and what to do with me. At that point I'd looked him directly in his eyes with my previous response, and I noticed their active duty homeboy had made his way over from macking some broad and they were all sizing me up...

My homegirl had the most nervous look ever and was telling homie "Dame, he just joking, relax". Homeboy tried to stare me down on some read and intimidate shyt, and I just instinctively held his gaze when I made my response and looked at Dealer and Active Duty. And i remember distinctly saying to myself something along the lines of "these nikkas gonna get themselves shot if they jump me in here", and calculating how far each was from me and who may strike first. I remember feeling a little adrenaline and getting a little excited about it in the moment...

Ultimately my friend asked to speak to me alone, so I got up from the table and went outside with her. She asked me to leave to diffuse the shyt, which I was cool with because I was starting to build, plus we weren't playing cards anymore anyway. So I left, never saw them dudes again, I remember telling one of my homeboys who had done time at the prison old boy worked at about the situation, and he told me (and our friend next time we were around her) he wishes I woulda called him so he could tell the nikka them tough guy COs at that prison were soft and he was very much a cop lmao. Had a good laugh, my friend said later that he wanted to take off on me and told her he shoulda beat my ass, him and his homeboys both encouraged it after I left, my response was just like "what stopped Mr. Officer?"

I haven't thought of this incident in several years, it's amazing what you can remember lol. That's the only time though that I believe I almost got into it with some Army cats...
 

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Yeah Safety first, The NCO's main responsibility, doesn't always happen though. I remember an LT got hemmed up because he packed like 16 guys on an FMTV (a big truck) and they died. All because he didn't want to march back in the rain from the drop zone. I don't know why packing people on a truck is deadly but apparently it was. Half the time we airborne shuffled/ Ruck ran all the way back from Sicily like we were in Delta Force or something.

One the reasons I was glad I chose Campbell over Bragg for my 2nd duty station lmao. We do air assault training and they come pick us back up or we drive home in sling loaded trucks afterwards
 

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Even our military people run for cell phones to record shyt and worldstar:snoop:


A cell phone is part of the uniform. A lot of times you're standing by until the bosses can think of something stupid to do, so usually a smart NCO will say Keep your cell phones on.

On deployment we took all kinds of fukked up pictures that will be history one day. I remember one of my joes came back from Qatar on mid tour leave with an Arab dishdasha mandress. Their was a dude that they thought was kidnapped by Al-queada (turned out to be a hoax) so I took off my blouse and had them stand over me with Mandresses and Ak's (we were training the Iraqi army) We were also cleaning the AK's and I told them they should post it on Hot or Not (it was a tinder like website that the whiteboys fukked with hard) Even the Privates thought it was a bad idea.


60 years from now that pictures gonna be on some website.
 

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Nah Army cats the worst with women lol...

Long story alert, had some memories triggered!

I never had any issues with dudes surprisingly, but when I was in Fayetteville NC knew cats who did. Alot of Army cats liked to front like they were in the streets when they were in the city, they'd be deep and strapped and get into it with street cats. I remember getting a call from a homeboy one day who told me meet him at the Waffle House because they (like 4 dudes) got into it with like 8 Army dudes at the club...

I was game but by the time I got to the Waffle House FPD was already there and had the shyt roped off...

There are some who try that double dipping shyt because they insecure and they really in the streets, you meet em in jail. I was in jail once with these twin brothers who were Army and ran a robbery crew that went around sticking up armored trucks and beefing with street cats, the robbery crew was a mix of Army and street cats...

One of the brothers got shot in an exchange with either FPD or the truck drivers (can't remember which) abd his leg was fukked up afterwards, ultimately got 9 years, don't remember what the other one got. Dude was pressed to be a tough guy in jail and wouldn't slide on one of my homeboys, but went to the hole for fighting a "pee wee" once and talked big shyt on his way out...

Other Army dudes I saw in jail were mostly low key and minded their business, in my experience jail exposed the real fraud in them. Knew a Army cat who got on with some local Crips and they caught a body and he was the first one to run snitching...

Damn as I'm writing this I distinctly remember something from around 2015, only time I almost had an incident with Army cats. My homegirl was former Air Force (she's Army now but this was in between her transition and she briefly worked at a prison). She invited me to a kickback at her place with her coworkers...

Dude she was fukking at the time worked at the prison and was former Army, married to a current Army chick. Anyway we playing spades and he has a homeboy there who is active duty and another homeboy who was allegedly a dope dealer from the outskirts of Fayetteville. Dope dealer has two small chains on and wants to gamble on the card games, there's like 10 people here total and only person I know is my homegirl. I tell him I don't gamble and he calls me broke, pulls out a small knot with 20s and claims it was 2 g's in his hand, and like 10 on his neck and wrist...

I'm laughing, not feeling there's an issue but I tell him I don't gamble as a principle, I lost alot of money at a card house in Atlanta once and that soured me on gambling. He called me broke again and told me what he was driving (can't remember), I pulled up in like a '11 or '12 Impala and he was like look what I came here with and look what you came here with. Little did I know he was sizing me up, my homegirl knew them from kickbacks before and once asked if he knew me because I also ran narcotics. We didn't know each other but I guess dude couldn't wait to meet me...


There was a random white boy in our unit who sold weed and meth to soldiers at Bragg. The bosses wanted to know why we had such a high drug abuse problem. They found out why. Dude went to the stockade and not the city jail since he sold to mainly solders.
 

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One the reasons I was glad I chose Campbell over Bragg for my 2nd duty station lmao. We do air assault training and they come pick us back up or we drive home in sling loaded trucks afterwards
I was glad I got the duece, The 10worst seemed to deploy more and it wasn't on the east coast.

I went to that bullshyt Air assault course at Bragg, some said the Campbell school was harder some said Bragg was harder. Either way I had to handle sling load ops ( had to work with supply for this at times) and got laughed at and smoked before I picked up e-5.

Hopefully they didn't con you into going Air Assault.
 

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I was glad I got the duece, The 10worst seemed to deploy more and it wasn't on the east coast.

I went to that bullshyt Air assault course at Bragg, some said the Campbell school was harder some said Bragg was harder. Either way I had to handle sling load ops ( had to work with supply for this at times) and got laughed at and smoked before I picked up e-5.

Hopefully they didn't con you into going Air Assault.

lol not being Air Assault qualified is the same as not being airborne at Bragg. You know that feeling, I’m sure.
:mjlol:

Day zero was the worst. We got smoked for 6 hours but it was cool after that. I’m afraid of heights but I knew if I failed I’d just get smoked by my platoon sergeant and sent back to day zero next go round lol. Some LT wore his Ranger tab through the arches and he couldn’t even make it to the first formation. They smoked him until he quit one hour in. When he walked back out the instructors yelled “I thought Rangers led the way!”

:mjlol:
I do regret not going to Airborne School though. By the time I felt brave enough to do it I ended up in 2ID.
 

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I remember when 3rd ACR and Cav was with the shyts all through Killeen.

Be at the wrong barbershop or gym lacking :unimpressed:

I actually had to pull a guard duty for a murderer once. For whatever reason, he couldn't be moved to another facility immediately so he was kept to an isolated barracks room for a day or two. He was cool as shyt :manny:. Dude had just transferred to our battalion. Went to a cookout with the other company and ran into someone he'd known back in Iraq.

Said some real casual words to the guy, told him to step outside, blasted him, then dropped his dog off with a friend, then turned himself in :wow:. Guess it just had to happen on sight.
everybofy in the Army knows someone who was crushed or run over by something they had no business being under
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Facts. I know of at least 4 people fukked up or killed by sleeping under or behind a vehicle. Each time I was :francis: because of the dumbass safety briefings to follow. They made us all wear kevlars through the motor pool for a year once because some dumbass thought it was cool to skip between vehicles that were being ground guided backwards. Got his head pinned between two and had his skull cracked open. He lived and his one brain cell somehow survived as well.
 

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When I was in Korea in 2003 I saw mad fights. Never in uniform though. Soldiers would go to the bars right near the base and get it on like the royal rumble. A lot of gang activity too :sas2:


I was glad I never went to Korea ( I was supposed to go but we kept getting deployed) But you can't talk about Korea without a good Juicy bar story.

We had a Phillipino SPC who spent 3 years in Korea he loved it. He said he never had to use Toilet paper because the massagi hoes would lick his ass clean.
 

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lol not being Air Assault qualified is the same as not being airborne at Bragg. You know that feeling, I’m sure.
:mjlol:

Day zero was the worst. We got smoked for 6 hours but it was cool after that. I’m afraid of heights but I knew if I failed I’d just get smoked by my platoon sergeant and sent back to day zero next go round lol. Some LT wore his Ranger tab through the arches and he couldn’t even make it to the first formation. They smoked him until he quit one hour in. When he walked back out the instructors yelled “I thought Rangers led the way!”

:mjlol:
I do regret not going to Airborne School though. By the time I felt brave enough to do it I ended up in 2ID.
This shyt right here is why the suicide rate gonna stay high :mjlol:
 

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I was glad I never went to Korea ( I was supposed to go but we kept getting deployed) But you can't talk about Korea without a good Juicy bar story.

We had a Phillipino SPC who spent 3 years in Korea he loved it. He said he never had to use Toilet paper because the massagi hoes would lick his ass clean.

:mjlol:
The I’ve never seen an institution so full of fukk shyt. People would ask me what the Army was like I’d just think to myself “I’ll just lie and say it’s chill cause they not gon believe the truth”
 

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lol not being Air Assault qualified is the same as not being airborne at Bragg. You know that feeling, I’m sure.
:mjlol:

Day zero was the worst. We got smoked for 6 hours but it was cool after that. I’m afraid of heights but I knew if I failed I’d just get smoked by my platoon sergeant and sent back to day zero next go round lol. Some LT wore his Ranger tab through the arches and he couldn’t even make it to the first formation. They smoked him until he quit one hour in. When he walked back out the instructors yelled “I thought Rangers led the way!”

:mjlol:
I do regret not going to Airborne School though. By the time I felt brave enough to do it I ended up in 2ID.

I'm deathly afraid of heights, I get dizzy on ladders. In fact when I got to to towers I didn't even know I was afraid of heights. the Sgt Airborne (the instructor) asked me what my problem was I told him I was afraid I was gonna fall. He said That means you're afraid of heights . That being said Like Air assault and Fast Rope you have to just assume that you're not gonna die.


Why'd you get out? I planned to do four and get out but they kept deploying us and waving bonuses at us. Before I got hurt I was scheduled to go to Fort Lewis and I was pissed. I wanted to stay in the Duece because it was close to home, but now I wish I had went to Italy at least.

I can't believe that Ranger grad quit, I guess he wasn't in the army very long.

You should've went Airborne and called everyone a leg and accepted your smoking.

We did have a mess cook attached to us (a Black lady) who was air assault not Airborne and dared anyone to say anything to her.
 

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There was a random white boy in our unit who sold weed and meth to soldiers at Bragg. The bosses wanted to know why we had such a high drug abuse problem. They found out why. Dude went to the stockade and not the city jail since he sold to mainly solders.

I heard stuff like this went on. Like I said in jail, most were laid back and I had conversations with them, at least one or two shared with me that there were dealers who were active duty. And I met regular street cats who used Army dudes for straw purchases and/or sold narcotics to active duty cats who were double dipping, but I never had that experience with any...

I heard FPD make a joke once though, when I got arrested and was in booking at the city jail, a couple of them were clowning how these Army dudes were always getting in trouble. Lot of domestic shyt with them, fights and shootings at clubs, drunk drivers (knew one who flipped his car like four times and caved the shyt in and still survived), Army dudes getting caught soliciting prostitutes, and there is always probably a handful of times a year, the Army person who kills their spouse or gets bagged on associating with civilians and they catch a body or robbery...

Dudes told me Fort Bragg/Fayetteville and Fort Hood/Killeen were traps for unstable enlistments who hadn't matured yet, because the cities are wild and the bases have a large population, so you get a disproportionate number of wannabes and/or guys who can't leave their past behind and start mingling with local criminals. Heard this a few different times...

Within the ranks did Hood and Bragg have that reputation with yall, or did other places as well?
 
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