that's a testament to how horrible fallon and meyers are as late night tv host
I'd say that all 3 are equally trash.
Arsenio Hall Show just got cancelled
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I'd say that all 3 are equally trash.
Field Marshall Bradley
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Well.....Let me ask you this....What was Arsenio's "target" audience?
When you say women and gays, do you infer that Wendy's show appeals to a significant demographic that is non black?
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i'd agree but if i had to say who was the better host of a show out of the 3 i'd say carson
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He had terrible writers and producers. Jimmy Kimmel owns that spot.
Klyk21
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all he had to do was get rid of that cheap ass craigslist looking furniture and he'd still be on..welp that was quick
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see fallon and meyers got that michael lorne co sign and he's the executive producer of their shyt, so those guys are good. them cats got a large amount of money invested in them and their shyt. because if those guys didn't have someone like a michael invested in them their shows would've been canceled cause they both are horrible
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Definitely. She has a wide age demo with no race barriers. And she also had a syndicated radio show with a loyal following. When she first started the TV show she was till working at the radio show as well. I knew her show was going to blow. Arsenio on the other had came back having to start all over. He knew the odds were stacked heavily against him.
He had a spark when he restarted but his guest appearances kept the show afloat.
he was better off trying to get on with TBS , comedy central because they give u time unlike the major networks
It's unfortunate that Arsenio got cancelled, but you can't help but feel that the network didn't give it a chance to mature and grow on people. They were probably counting on his loyal fan base from the 90's to watch as well roping in a new audience to compliment his old one. But maybe in the end Arsenio was just a victim of his own success. If the network expected his show to make the same impact he had in the 90's, then they were sorely mistaken. Times have changed since his show was on and so has black culture. Mainstream Black media culture is centered around materialism and drama more than it is discussing black issues. That's why shows like LHHATL and RHOA are so popular. What black folk watch on tv nowadays is vastly different. Not to mention technology has changed the way we consume media. Arsenio never had a chance with the lofty expectations heaped upon him.
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Absolutely.
Field Marshall Bradley
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Well...Here is where I disagree....Wendy did not have a "huge" non black following on her radio show......If she was doing it like that, she would have never got fired......
Wendy deals in mainstream gossip that appeals to the masses right now........Arsenio got canned for having Farrakhan on his show delivering a message to the black nation......He may have received this second chance as an experiment......
I have no idea
What I do know is that in the 90s(Arsenio's era), programming that catered to black thought and interests on a positive plane were highly successful......Post 2005, not so much...Can someone explain to me what has changed.....
I don't think you can point to just one thing. I believe it's a combination of factors such as the increase in new technologies, the acceptance of black culture from the mainstream, the merging of mainstream culture and it's effects on black culture, and a growing desire for black folk to assimilate into mainstream culture. Now I don't have all the answers and there are many more reasons as to why and how the shift took place, but those are just some I came up with from the top of my head. But the real question is, What does Black consciousness look like in 2014?
The problems with the show were that it was low budget and had poor writing. The positives were that Arsenio had interesting guests, especially black guests (Tyson, Eddie, Prince, Deion etc.) And there was this vibe that they actually cared about Arsenio like they were friends. However, Arsenio's interviewing skills didn't seem to be that great.
I wish the show had a higher budget with better writers, and more time for Arsenio to get back in prime form, but I was expecting it to be cancelled before all that had a chance to happen anyways.
I wish the show had a higher budget with better writers, and more time for Arsenio to get back in prime form, but I was expecting it to be cancelled before all that had a chance to happen anyways.