As a known Kobe hater...i don't ever wanna see comparision to Lebron again

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Yup...I'm absolutely sure and I'm not even gonna entertain you sitting her like Kobe fukking Bryant...prolly the most divisive and pretty most consistently derided all-time great basketball player to have ever played, didn't catch criticism for that series or damn near every playoff series he's ever lost dating back to the beef with Shaq :comeon: :comeon: ...I'm not gonna pretend like Kobe has EVER gotten some kind of Tim Duncan-esque pass for not winning when there is damn near a cottage industry of media members that make careers out of bashing Kobe at every occasion :heh: or that the phenomenon of Kobe-Hating is some mystical thing that only happens on this messeageboard and it's predecessor :russ:




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It's insanity

If you're gonna attempt to maintain this fictional fukkery...please stop responding to me right now...don't want to hear anything else

:laff: Is it really that deep my dude? You could've just ignored the post if it's like that. :heh: Kobe is only divisive and derided on here. In real life he has his share of detractors but it's not like you are making it out to be. He's pretty roundly sucked by the media and yeah he's gotten more than his fair share of passes. Even on here he didn't catch anywhere near the heat that Bron did for doing the same thing against the same team the same year. :heh: I heard way more about Pau's softness that year. But heh if you would rather live in you emotional bubble where every solitary criticism of Kobe equals "everybody hates Kobe" :sadbron: then by all means do you. :manny: :laff: at cottage industry. Seriously my man you need help.
 

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Why do people insist on compaing Kobe & Lebron. They have 2 entirely different games. They have 2 totally different skillsets
 

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Why do people insist on compaing Kobe & Lebron. They have 2 entirely different games. They have 2 totally different skillsets

Some people can only understand things through the prism of mano y mano, this guy vs. that guy. I would rather have them compared to each other than, as they are contemporaries, then have them both compared to Mike. :manny:
 

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:laff: Is it really that deep my dude? You could've just ignored the post if it's like that. :heh: Kobe is only divisive and derided on here. In real life he has his share of detractors but it's not like you are making it out to be. He's pretty roundly sucked by the media and yeah he's gotten more than his fair share of passes. Even on here he didn't catch anywhere near the heat that Bron did for doing the same thing against the same team the same year. :heh: I heard way more about Pau's softness that year. But heh if you would rather live in you emotional bubble where every solitary criticism of Kobe equals "everybody hates Kobe" :sadbron: then by all means do you. :manny: :laff: at cottage industry. Seriously my man you need help.
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you should get outside more
kobe's one of the most hated athletes in America
He's also one of the most liked

kobe is liked by the media now, but back in those shaq days, rape days, and all up until he won his first ring without shaq, he was getting shytted on daily. Lebron has pretty much got a pass up until he joined miami (or shortly before that) kobe been dealing with it pretty much since day 1

granted, i would say the hatred for lebron' peaked higher den the hatred for kobe but that shyt really only lasted a year. after he lost to dallas, ppl started warming up to him again.media been riding his dikk all year

kobe doesn't catch as much heat anymore because he is a 17 year veteran who has already proven himself. He is not in his prime anymore and everything he win's now is a bonus. The fact that lebron and kobe are still comparable when one's in his prime and one isn't is the real eye opener
 

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you should get outside more
kobe's one of the most hated athletes in America
He's also one of the most liked

kobe is liked by the media now, but back in those shaq days, rape days, and all up until he won his first ring without shaq, he was getting shytted on daily. Lebron has pretty much got a pass up until he joined miami (or shortly before that) kobe been dealing with it pretty much since day 1

granted, i would say the hatred for lebron' peaked higher den the hatred for kobe but that shyt really only lasted a year. after he lost to dallas, ppl started warming up to him again.media been riding his dikk all year

kobe doesn't catch as much heat anymore because he is a 17 year veteran who has already proven himself. He is not in his prime anymore and everything he win's now is a bonus. The fact that lebron and kobe are still comparable when one's in his prime and one isn't is the real eye opener
We don't even have to do any "back in the day" stuff...as of a couple of months ago he's the most hated basketball player in the world :heh:

Kobe Bryant, World Peace among top 10 disliked athletes - CBSSports.com

and more for the fukk of it

http://www.ibtimes.com/kobe-bryant-divorce-most-hated-superstar-sports-212969

http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/...-right-now/most-hated-nba-players-right-now-5

Even in the immediate aftermath of the "The Decision" guess who was more hated:
http://www.aolnews.com/2010/09/15/kobe-bryant-still-more-hated-than-lebron-james/

He just had one of the best individual seasons by a player with his mileage in NBA history, but got knocked all of last season for ruining the lakers this past season...the idea that Kobe...of any hooper or atlhlete for that manner...gets "passes" or is spared from criticism is frankly ludicrous...don't even both engaging with somebody that doesn't at least use reality as the baseline of the discussion
 

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:childplease:
you should get outside more
kobe's one of the most hated athletes in America
He's also one of the most liked

kobe is liked by the media now, but back in those shaq days, rape days, and all up until he won his first ring without shaq, he was getting shytted on daily. Lebron has pretty much got a pass up until he joined miami (or shortly before that) kobe been dealing with it pretty much since day 1

granted, i would say the hatred for lebron' peaked higher den the hatred for kobe but that shyt really only lasted a year. after he lost to dallas, ppl started warming up to him again.media been riding his dikk all year

kobe doesn't catch as much heat anymore because he is a 17 year veteran who has already proven himself. He is not in his prime anymore and everything he win's now is a bonus. The fact that lebron and kobe are still comparable when one's in his prime and one isn't is the real eye opener

Kobe has been liked by the media. The media was rushing to make him a rival for Mike at 19. :aicmon: at the nikka getting shytted on daily. The nikka was regularly touted as being above his peers and even young MJ on the account of his early rings. There was some talk about him being selfish and not deferring to Shaq however that shyt was thoroughly overshadowed by the rings and the team dominance. There's a difference between a couple people saying something and something being the overriding narrative. Only reason he's on that most hated list is because of the rape shyt. :laff: at you shrugging that shyt off. There is a sizeable population (mostly white and :umad:) that think he raped a bytch. ESPN was still sucking him off during that shyt. They treated his games after court hearings like he was on some Willis Reed shyt. They marveled at his ability to drop 30 or hit a game winner under those circumstance. Only time people were really on Kobe like that was after that first PHX series. That was the only offseason were the overwhelming narrative shytting on Kobe. There is no doubt that there are people on here who hate Kobe and some :angry: CACs who hate him after the rape shyt but to sit here and act like the media at large was shytting on the nikka from jump or as if they have dwelled on his every shortcoming (individual and teamwise) and the overhwhelming narratives surrounding him have been negative is just patently false. When I go outside :laugh: no matter where I go I always encounter way more Laker/Kobe fans than anything else.
 

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Kobe owns five titles though:russ:


The main fallacy and focal point of the Kobe-contingent fan is.
Purely fiction and revision,....
As that fanbase's fanfare tries desperately to cling to the idea.
Kobe was the lone catalyst and contributor on five championship teams.
Where his outside perimeter guard play was all done without the help of superior post play of the highest pedigree.
Which is all a fukking lie.
So the fanbase can somehow attach themselves erroneously to the mythos of Jordan's stature as goat.
The only thing Kobe mirrors is stealing and failing to accurately copy mike's style of play from an aesthetic standpoint.
Kobe, is nowhere near Jordan.
So, let's cut the backlash to bron.
All because bron is also erroneously put into the conversation of goat.
On par with Jordan,.....
When neither Kobe, nor bron are even as good/great historically as magic.
When both missed the boat to be on magic's level, with a comparable roster.
Or as a positional player on court, as well.

Let's stop with the attempts at revision.
Kobe and bron are nowhere near Jordan and they are not even the closest ones.
As a matter of fact,...
I take hordes of NBA hof'ers before Kobe or bron.
Who both lack the execution level and bball IQ.
To really give them a nod over the better upper tier hof players.
For starters,....
Bron and Kobe can not even beat a zone.
Or a healthy staffed team that equals theirs in coaching pedigree.
Something,...
All the other goat hof position players, persevered and did in higher qualified bball IQ era and skill of play.



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The main fallacy and focal point of the Kobe-contingent fan is.
Purely fiction and revision,....
As that fanbase's fanfare tries desperately to cling to the idea.
Kobe was the lone catalyst and contributor on five championship teams.
Where his outside perimeter guard play was all done without the help of superior post play of the highest pedigree.
Which is all a fukking lie.
So the fanbase can somehow attach themselves erroneously to the mythos of Jordan's stature as goat.
The only thing Kobe mirrors is stealing and failing to accurately copy mike's style of play from an aesthetic standpoint.
Kobe, is nowhere near Jordan.
So, let's cut the backlash to bron.
All because bron is also erroneously put into the conversation of goat.
On par with Jordan,.....
When neither Kobe, nor bron are even as good/great historically as magic.
When both missed the boat to be on magic's level, with a comparable roster.
Or as a positional player on court, as well.

Let's stop with the attempts at revision.
Kobe and bron are nowhere near Jordan and they are not even the closest ones.
As a matter of fact,...
I take hordes of NBA hof'ers before Kobe or bron.
Who both lack the execution level and bball IQ.
To really give them a nod over the better upper tier hof players.
For starters,....
Bron and Kobe can not even beat a zone.
Or a healthy staffed team that equals theirs in coaching pedigree.
Something,...
All the other goat hof position players, persevered and did in higher qualified bball IQ era and skill of play.



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You would take a HORDE of players over Kobe? Kobe can't beat a Zone? Can you explain this?

Who ever said he was the sole catalyst of 5 titles? Was Magic or Jordan the sole catalyst of any title? Magic Johnson himself said Kobe has surpassed him, and I think the record is obvious.

What zones we're they beating in the 80's :heh:
 

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You would take a HORDE of players over Kobe? Kobe can't beat a Zone? Can you explain this?

Who ever said he was the sole catalyst of 5 titles? Was Magic or Jordan the sole catalyst of any title? Magic Johnson himself said Kobe has surpassed him, and I think the record is obvious.


First off,.....
The fans to media, and the sportswriters included...
Always, overcite Kobe's achievements.
Then leave out all the details.
Choosing to settle for a plain black and white statistician account of what occurred.
While, also....and most importantly ignoring all the other actual pertinent content statistically.
That is a fact,...
Also,...
On top of only basing their lipstick smeared glasses reading of said statistical history books.
They also,...downplay the statistical play and contribution of every NBA top pedigree postplayer who is/was the statistical catalyst that allows Kobe success.
On top of ignoring,...
Kobe's legacy and pedigree coaching wise.
Then, only bringing it into question.
To draw some comparison to air Jordan.
While, consistently ignoring any and every other achievement statistically and in the history books outside of ships.
Nobody is fooled by that bullshyt.
Anyone who watches bball and knows the game.
Would.never champion Kobe as a goat.
Nor, would they defiantly Continue this bullshyt witchhunt of any and every competitor.
Who is also compared to the Jordan mythos.
Which will always occur,....
As them nikka are wannabe,...that wannabe like mike.
Yet, they are not mike and will never surpass mike.
Plus, consistently missed out on opportunities in their early career to ever be compared to the goat, air Jordan.

So, spare us anymore false kobe idolization.
As it is completely ignorant on a pagan level of worship.
That is not supported by any fact, fiction, or occurrence in history.

Also,...
Yes, I would take a horde of ballplayers over Kobe and bron on my hof imaginary time machine roster.

Magic
Jordan
Dr j
Hawkins
Wilt

kareem
Dream : played twin towers with sampson
Bird
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Oscar


Robinson
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First off,.....
The fans to media, and the sportswriters included...
Always, overcite Kobe's achievements.
Then leave out all the details.
Choosing to settle for a plain black and white statistician account of what occurred.
While, also....and most importantly ignoring all the other actual pertinent content statistically.
That is a fact,...
Also,...
On top of only basing their lipstick smeared glasses reading of said statistical history books.
They also,...downplay the statistical play and contribution of every NBA top pedigree postplayer who is/was the statistical catalyst that allows Kobe success.
On top of ignoring,...
Kobe's legacy and pedigree coaching wise.
Then, only bringing it into question.
To draw some comparison to air Jordan.
While, consistently ignoring any and every other achievement statistically and in the history books outside of ships.
Nobody is fooled by that bullshyt.
Anyone who watches bball and knows the game.
Would.never champion Kobe as a goat.
Nor, would they defiantly Continue this bullshyt witchhunt of any and every competitor.
Who is also compared to the Jordan mythos.
Which will always occur,....
As them nikka are wannabe,...that wannabe like mike.
Yet, they are not mike and will never surpass mike.
Plus, consistently missed out on opportunities in their early career to ever be compared to the goat, air Jordan.

So, spare us anymore false kobe idolization.
As it is completely ignorant on a pagan level of worship.
That is not supported by any fact, fiction, or occurrence in history.


Art Barr
All you did was give your opinion, you didn't answer any of my questions.

Kobe didn't pass MJ and at this point can never, but Lebron can't with 7 titles?

Kobe got "Elite Pedigree Post Play" From Pau Gasol? So what. Which teams were better, Jordan's bulls or the 08,09,10 Lakers :dead:

You're saying Kobe isn't even an All time GOAT player? Seriously?
 

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Kobe has been liked by the media. The media was rushing to make him a rival for Mike at 19. :aicmon: at the nikka getting shytted on daily. The nikka was regularly touted as being above his peers and even young MJ on the account of his early rings. There was some talk about him being selfish and not deferring to Shaq however that shyt was thoroughly overshadowed by the rings and the team dominance. There's a difference between a couple people saying something and something being the overriding narrative. Only reason he's on that most hated list is because of the rape shyt. :laff: at you shrugging that shyt off. There is a sizeable population (mostly white and :umad:) that think he raped a bytch. ESPN was still sucking him off during that shyt. They treated his games after court hearings like he was on some Willis Reed shyt. They marveled at his ability to drop 30 or hit a game winner under those circumstance. Only time people were really on Kobe like that was after that first PHX series. That was the only offseason were the overwhelming narrative shytting on Kobe. There is no doubt that there are people on here who hate Kobe and some :angry: CACs who hate him after the rape shyt but to sit here and act like the media at large was shytting on the nikka from jump or as if they have dwelled on his every shortcoming (individual and teamwise) and the overhwhelming narratives surrounding him have been negative is just patently false. When I go outside :laugh: no matter where I go I always encounter way more Laker/Kobe fans than anything else.
like i said
you should get out more
or atleast check the statuses of your facebook and twitter friends
ppl either really love kobe or really hate him
almost every crew has a kobe lover and a kobe hater
and he was the most hated person in da media for a very long time
ppl chose shaq over him

and you realize that people on this site aren't robots right:upsetfavre:
these same ppl go off the internet and hate on kobe or love kobe in real life

unless you in cali i don't no where you would go woudl go where kobe is universally loved. even philly hates his ass

how old are you?
 

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So you fakkits are gonna forget about the Mavs gettin Kobe's ass outta there in 4 and beatin him to a bloody pulp in the 2011 playoffs??

Oh.. Ok..

:laugh:


nikkaz,
Already forgot Kobe with mike brown and a better a roster than bron's.
Kobe got whipped by okc,...
The same okc, bron beat for the title, with the same wack level of coaching bron always had.
shyt, nikka forgot....
Both bron and Kobe were exposed by higher pedigree coaching and healthy rosters consistently.
From the o4 pistons loss, spurs finals lauce, mavs headtaking in 2011.
Plus, the numerous drubbings of the cavs and Lakers by the Celts in o8.
Where Kobe only bested the next injured incarnation of the Celts for back to back titles.
Which was only won because of injuries to ghostzone anchor Perkins.
Which allowed gasol the opportunity to be the catalyst for the back-to-back Lakers title win.
Which is completely ignored by Kobe fans.
Just like they try to downplay Shaq.
When anyone who knows history and has a bball IQ.
Knows effective powerpost play is the only way Kobe will hoist ships.
He will not will his way over any team understaffed and undercoached, which is a fukkING FACT.
The Lakers only win with Kobe.
When, Kobe is backed by the highest possible pedigree'd coaching and bigmen.
Whereas it is a fact bron has consistently done more with lower pedigree resources from coaching to staffing.
When Kobe had wack coaching,...
Nowhere near the results of bron.
On top of kobe having a career legacy as a lockerroom cancer.
Where kobe ran three of the best execution level sevenfooters in the past three years into the ground.
Plus, ran off Shaw close to a decade ago.
Then, also lauced't this year with a better roster.
That had no deficiencies in the low post either.
The Lakers lauced't the past three years because of Kobe, period.

Duke is the worst all time basketball roster cancer, in the history of the NBA.

kobe, ruins championship calibur coaching and rosters.
At a higher clip, than Jerry Krause having to resign, Rodman, Phil, pip, mj.

I like Kobe, but the selective memory and revision of his fans.
Make watching any game, a fukking chore.
As every delussional Kobe fan.
Selfishly makes every convo, even when Kobe is nowhere in the postseason draw, about Kobe.
When, Kobe has never done anything on his own.
To garner this type of errant fanfare.

shyt is hilarious to lol at.
The level of consistent sociopathic selfishness by his fanbase speaks volumes.
It really makes you think,...
They would have been in that Utah hotel room with a buttplug and pom-poms.
Then helped to conspire with Kobe to cover up his errors.
Then, spin them into narcissism.


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