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HoustonTexasCrank said:
Thanks for the humane response lol. I think a lot of people will watch this video and not even really know who Creflo is. He's the pastor who talked his mostly poor congregation into getting him a 65 million dollar jet. No lie. This song is essentially a diss of a living piece of shyt. The lyrics have more meaning when you understand the context. The "Shkreli Life" hat sort of adds to the parody of the song. He's the guy who owns the Wu-Tang album and threatened to break it. So...you can make your deductions about him. Consider this whole video to be a parody.

But beyond this song, which was made to be mainstream/generic, and the 10+ other songs we are currently mastering (personally I like the other songs more, but they wanted to start with Creflo), if you check out their first mixtape you will see that they have a lot of life experiences to talk about (the type of shyt rappers brag about sadly) and a dynamic range of flows. I don't want to keep plugging them, but here is the video from their first "RIP" mixtape:



This one was re-uploaded today (I think) because they wanted to re-master the song a bit and get the video to 1080p. Not quite sure though...

But at the end of the day, these guys are genuinely nice and professional artists. They are easy to work with, they work hard, and more conventional intelligence than most every rapper that come through here. It's normally a pain in the ass to work with rappers - they are arrogant, always late and complaining, can't deal with criticism, and will only want to do 1 take and leave. These guys are the polar opposite.

I guess I'm bias which is why I wasted my time on this post. They asked me to help them put their music out there and I agreed. They are working on getting gigs and all, and we are trying to help, but it's tough out there for an unknown artist that doesn't have a connection or tons of money. And to be honest, being white makes it nearly impossible for us to get a promoter interested in them (we are down south - carolinas). We got this song played in Columbia at a club a few nights ago and the DJ stopped it once they saw who it was that recorded it. They were literally the only 2 white people in the club. No joke. And it's the only place in the city that allows local artists to have shows.

I'll show them all the responses on this thread, but only for my personal amusement. They won't take it too seriously...
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they deliberately made a generic song? like "yo, let's sit down and make some generic shyt for Youtube?"
 
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Personally, I wouldn't buy it.

...but there are a lot of artist out nowadays I wouldn't buy shyt from...

They seem marketable in today's climate, That's really all that matters.
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I feel you, it'll be free though once the tape comes out...
 
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they deliberately made a generic song? like "yo, let's sit down and make some generic shyt for Youtube?"
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Haha not exactly, it was more a realization that down south the "Atlanta" style of beats/rapping (either originating from Future or Migos or whoever) is all anyone wants to hear. It sucks but it's the truth - in Creflo they tried to ride the line between doing that 100% and injecting their own style while also having a deeper meaning to the lyrics. We will see how it works out. They have a couple songs that are pretty much straight out of the ATL handbook, so I think in the end if they have to go "full retard" then that will be possible. No offense to those who love trap/drill shyt, I personally do too. It's the best stuff when you're trying to get fukked up and girls love dancing to it.

We talked about it in the studio the theory was that, in order for their real and meaningful shyt to be exposed to a large audience, they first needed that audience (obviously). To get fans down here, you gotta make a certain type of music. You gotta promote songs like Creflo Dollar in order for songs like Letter (one of their new songs about suicide/depression..real as fukk) to be heard by anyone.

It's like an artist is a business, and the music is the product. You have to fill the demand, you can't just make a song thats real and expect it to sell if there is no demand. Only a loyal fan base would take the time to listen to that real-ass song that is track 14 on the tape.

Hope that makes some sense. When people talk about an artist "selling out," it's not always so cut and dry. I'm sure many famous rappers could point to songs that were their most popular hits and say they hated writing/recording it. Or that they made the stupidest song possible knowing it would get played in clubs and shyt.

Sorry for rambling, I've been having a chill afternoon...
 
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Haha not exactly, it was more a realization that down south the "Atlanta" style of beats/rapping (either originating from Future or Migos or whoever) is all anyone wants to hear. It sucks but it's the truth - in Creflo they tried to ride the line between doing that 100% and injecting their own style while also having a deeper meaning to the lyrics. We will see how it works out. They have a couple songs that are pretty much straight out of the ATL handbook, so I think in the end if they have to go "full retard" then that will be possible. No offense to those who love trap/drill shyt, I personally do too. It's the best stuff when you're trying to get fukked up and girls love dancing to it.

We talked about it in the studio the theory was that, in order for their real and meaningful shyt to be exposed to a large audience, they first needed that audience (obviously). To get fans down here, you gotta make a certain type of music. You gotta promote songs like Creflo Dollar in order for songs like Letter (one of their new songs about suicide/depression..real as fukk) to be heard by anyone.

It's like an artist is a business, and the music is the product. You have to fill the demand, you can't just make a song thats real and expect it to sell if there is no demand. Only a loyal fan base would take the time to listen to that real-ass song that is track 14 on the tape.

Hope that makes some sense. When people talk about an artist "selling out," it's not always so cut and dry. I'm sure many famous rappers could point to songs that were their most popular hits and say they hated writing/recording it. Or that they made the stupidest song possible knowing it would get played in clubs and shyt.

Sorry for rambling, I've been having a chill afternoon...
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that seems to be the play now. Come with your weak, generic shyt --- hope it catches a flame, then use the 'real shyt' to defend your credibility so you're not seen as a 1 hit wonder.

Rap is weird.

Back then, it was the total opposite. You came with your flames to get us heads to pay attention, which gives you the credibility to water your shyt down to expand the fanbase.
 
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SirBiatch said:
that seems to be the play now. Come with your weak, generic shyt --- hope it catches a flame, then use the 'real shyt' to defend your credibility so you're not seen as a 1 hit wonder.

Rap is weird.

Back then, it was the total opposite. You came with your flames to get us heads to pay attention, which gives you the credibility to water your shyt down to expand the fanbase.
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Dude, you seem like a complete anomaly on this website. In a good way, assuming you aren't being sarcastic. You are completely right at least in my opinion. We ended up getting a club down here in SC to let them perform Creflo last night, and the responses were much different and more positive than those of this thread (excluding you). Pretty much all love, especially from the other rappers that performed and the DJ. And again, they were the only white guys there which made all the love that much better.

That really is the cool thing about the world of rap and music in general. It brings people together who otherwise would never ever talk or might even naturally harbor hate for each other. There is a mutual respect that, hey, at least you are putting out your music and taking your chances. And even if it sucks, at least you have the balls to grab the mic and go on stage.
 
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