As a producer I rarely come across unknown rappers I think will blow...

[pon]

Nothing special

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

Kinda have to agree but as a beatmaker i do come across producers that make me wonder why they never blew up.

 

[HoustonTexasCrank]

Kinda have to agree but as a beatmaker i do come across producers that make me wonder why they never blew up.

It's crazy how much talent there is in the underground world...getting that major break has no instruction manual unfortunately. otherwise i'd be producer of the century ;)

 

[The God Poster]

@SirBiatch why are you having a convo with a troll ?

 

[Art Barr]

Thanks for the humane response lol. I think a lot of people will watch this video and not even really know who Creflo is. He's the pastor who talked his mostly poor congregation into getting him a 65 million dollar jet. No lie. This song is essentially a diss of a living piece of shyt. The lyrics have more meaning when you understand the context. The "Shkreli Life" hat sort of adds to the parody of the song. He's the guy who owns the Wu-Tang album and threatened to break it. So...you can make your deductions about him. Consider this whole video to be a parody.

But beyond this song, which was made to be mainstream/generic, and the 10+ other songs we are currently mastering (personally I like the other songs more, but they wanted to start with Creflo), if you check out their first mixtape you will see that they have a lot of life experiences to talk about (the type of shyt rappers brag about sadly) and a dynamic range of flows. I don't want to keep plugging them, but here is the video from their first "RIP" mixtape:



This one was re-uploaded today (I think) because they wanted to re-master the song a bit and get the video to 1080p. Not quite sure though...

But at the end of the day, these guys are genuinely nice and professional artists. They are easy to work with, they work hard, and more conventional intelligence than most every rapper that come through here. It's normally a pain in the ass to work with rappers - they are arrogant, always late and complaining, can't deal with criticism, and will only want to do 1 take and leave. These guys are the polar opposite.

I guess I'm bias which is why I wasted my time on this post. They asked me to help them put their music out there and I agreed. They are working on getting gigs and all, and we are trying to help, but it's tough out there for an unknown artist that doesn't have a connection or tons of money. And to be honest, being white makes it nearly impossible for us to get a promoter interested in them (we are down south - carolinas). We got this song played in a local club a few nights ago and the DJ stopped it once they saw who it was that recorded it. They were literally the only 2 white people in the club. No joke. And it's the only place in the city that allows local artists to have shows.

I'll show them all the responses on this thread, but only for my personal amusement. They won't take it too seriously...

Why you working with artist in a black music genre who are ehite and rock confederate flag motif tanktops.
Like just that alone kills any cred you could have or any draw you could have, period.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Haha not exactly, it was more a realization that down south the "Atlanta" style of beats/rapping (either originating from Future or Migos or whoever) is all anyone wants to hear. It sucks but it's the truth - in Creflo they tried to ride the line between doing that 100% and injecting their own style while also having a deeper meaning to the lyrics. We will see how it works out. They have a couple songs that are pretty much straight out of the ATL handbook, so I think in the end if they have to go "full retard" then that will be possible. No offense to those who love trap/drill shyt, I personally do too. It's the best stuff when you're trying to get fukked up and girls love dancing to it.

We talked about it in the studio the theory was that, in order for their real and meaningful shyt to be exposed to a large audience, they first needed that audience (obviously). To get fans down here, you gotta make a certain type of music. You gotta promote songs like Creflo Dollar in order for songs like Letter (one of their new songs about suicide/depression..real as fukk) to be heard by anyone.

It's like an artist is a business, and the music is the product. You have to fill the demand, you can't just make a song thats real and expect it to sell if there is no demand. Only a loyal fan base would take the time to listen to that real-ass song that is track 14 on the tape.

Hope that makes some sense. When people talk about an artist "selling out," it's not always so cut and dry. I'm sure many famous rappers could point to songs that were their most popular hits and say they hated writing/recording it. Or that they made the stupidest song possible knowing it would get played in clubs and shyt.

Sorry for rambling, I've been having a chill afternoon...

You and these artist are culturally disengenuine.



Art Barr

 

[SirBiatch]

@SirBiatch why are you having a convo with a troll ?

I didn't think the dude was trolling. And I wanted some insight into a struggle rapper/producer trying to make it.

 

[frush11]

This sounds just like every other song out here these days.

But you know, dudes here gotta exaggerate as always

 

[Juggalo Fred]

dont reply, just neg.

 

[10bandz]

@ this shytty ass thread

no surprise the loser in my avi is the only one to strike a rapport with the OP

 

[10bandz]

@SirBiatch why are you having a convo with a troll ?

Thats the only way he can find other posters who like him

 

[SirBiatch]

for 10bands, the topic is always Drake and SirBiatch, regardless of thread topic

my son, I'll give you a dap. I see the effort

 

[Yehuda]

All race shyt aside... that song is just garbage.

Why you working with artist in a black music genre who are ehite and rock confederate flag motif tanktops.
Like just that alone kills any cred you could have or any draw you could have, period.


Art Barr

The thread starter's response to a thread about a slave revolt:

And in the end, it was a white president and mostly white Union army that got the job done. Maybe some of that reparation money everyone on here talks about should go to the descendants of the Union soldiers who died to free them.

 

[Unknown Poster]

You and these artist are culturally disengenuine.



Art Barr

This is all I can take from this.

 

[dennis roadman]

All race shyt aside... that song is just garbage.



The thread starter's response to a thread about a slave revolt: